JON gone at years End...

[Ridley]

It was Greg Miller, not Francis Jackson, who went over to the Geelong table at the end of the 2005 draft to discuss the future of his preferred selection at #8 - Travis Varcoe.

JON was Jackson's man as was documented at the time. This is not a bit of maybe. Jackson's man.

You're right, Ridley.

To be fair to Jackson, the draft he seemed to get righter was last year's and he only got two choices. Whoever elected to take only two youngsters at that draft should be sacked if he hasn't been already. And if it was Craig Cameron, who is on a five year contract, he should be moved the hell away from recruiting choices - if he hasn't already. Likewise whoever chose Tom Hislop and Spudley Whatsisname from Port. Oh that's right - Thompson. If you had a hand in either of those - there's the door.

You know what i like about March? He's not frightened to give duds directions to the dole office. Sayonara Miller, Terence. And Whoever.

Spot on Jack :fing32

 

[Scoop]

It was Greg Miller, not Francis Jackson, who went over to the Geelong table at the end of the 2005 draft to discuss the future of his preferred selection at #8 - Travis Varcoe.

JON was Jackson's man as was documented at the time. This is not a bit of maybe. Jackson's man.

You're right, Ridley.

To be fair to Jackson, the draft he seemed to get righter was last year's and he only got two choices. Whoever elected to take only two youngsters at that draft should be sacked if he hasn't been already. And if it was Craig Cameron, who is on a five year contract, he should be moved the hell away from recruiting choices - if he hasn't already. Likewise whoever chose Tom Hislop and Spudley Whatsisname from Port. Oh that's right - Thompson. If you had a hand in either of those - there's the door.

You know what i like about March? He's not frightened to give duds directions to the dole office. Sayonara Miller, Terence. And Whoever.

The gospel of Jack. Spudley Whatsisname,hahahaha. That is going to stick.

 

[IanG]

To be fair to Jackson, the draft he seemed to get righter was last year's and he only got two choices. Whoever elected to take only two youngsters at that draft should be sacked if he hasn't been already. And if it was Craig Cameron, who is on a five year contract, he should be moved the hell away from recruiting choices - if he hasn't already. Likewise whoever chose Tom Hislop and Spudley Whatsisname from Port. Oh that's right - Thompson. If you had a hand in either of those - there's the door.

You know what i like about March? He's not frightened to give duds directions to the dole office. Sayonara Miller, Terence. And Whoever.

But it was CC and he appears ensconced in his position. I would have thought Hislop would be your sort of player IMHO he's doing fairly well as a fwd line enforcer. As for Thomson well he has been injured most of the year.

 

[Danarchy]

Mitch Clark, Marcus Drum, Shaun Higgins, Nathan Jones, Grant Birchall, Travis Varcoe, Richard Douglas.

That my fellow punters is the exact order of the draft after we took the great JON. Lot of really good core footballers in that group.

??? :'(

 

[Lidsand]

I guess you can only go on what people tell you. FJ told numerous people who post, or used to post, on this site after that draft that JON was picked on his recommendation. Check out CC's post. I'm not sure why people are so hellbent on defending FJ. No doubt he's better than Miller but let's face it that's no great achievement.

There's a long way to go before we can declare our recruiting is at the level it should be.

if thats fair dinkum then he got it wrong coz it goes against every fundamental element of every fj pick since

 

[TT33]

Trade him to Port for Salopek ;D

 

[RedanTiger]

Mitch Clark, Marcus Drum, Shaun Higgins, Nathan Jones, Grant Birchall, Travis Varcoe, Richard Douglas.

That my fellow punters is the exact order of the draft after we took the great JON. Lot of really good core footballers in that group.

MY list from then shows the order as Clark, Drum, Higgins, Jones, 13-Shannon Hurn (WC) then Birchall, Varcoe and Douglas.

The addition of Hurn only makes it look worse though considering his form this year and particularly on Saturday.

BTW Hurn had played in TWO SANFL premierships and captained SA under 18s before being drafted.

 

[the claw]

if thats fair dinkum then he got it wrong coz it goes against every fundamental element of every fj pick since

of course he got it wrong then and hes got plenty wrong since. white, polak surely he had imput into this, edwards iffy, peterson, connors iffy, and thats just 06.

 

[WesternTiger]

of course he got it wrong then and hes got plenty wrong since. white, polak surely he had imput into this, edwards iffy, peterson, connors iffy, and thats just 06.

Show me a recruiter that has got them all right since 2005.

 

[the claw]

Show me a recruiter that has got them all right since 2005.

the question you need to ask is how many has he got right. time will tell.

 

[The tooth]

Good riddance, I can't remember any 1 of his 13 games where he's shown signs of a future.

I remember his lead up marking from the forward line in the North game this year. They were the best signs I saw from JON. I'm as frustrated as the next Tiges supporter and haven't looked at Egan's quotes yet, but...he has had massive troubles building up his weight despite his best efforts in addition to the obvious other issues on field, nice bloke and genuinely believes he is better as a forward than a back. Square peg, round hole maybe?

 

[IanG]

of course he got it wrong then and hes got plenty wrong since. white, polak surely he had imput into this, edwards iffy, peterson, connors iffy, and thats just 06.

FFS! Polak was a Miller decision. The rest were well down the order of draft selections. How many players drafted after pick 50 make it? Really stupid strawman argument. For once try and argue honestly.

 

[Tigerfan]

The bloke can't get a consistent game in the Burg seniors let alone the Richmond seniors, nothing against him but I'll dead seat eat my hat if another club picked him up. I mean it too, I will eat my DC black cap and toast it to JON if he ends up on another clubs list.

I belive we made a mistake not giving JON a run of 10 games.
He's had 13 games, mostly sitting on the pine.
He hasn't been given a chance in the big time to get settled.
JON does act very confused when he gets the ball though.
Get him on the wing and tell him to get the ball and kick it lace out to the CHF spot.
Just kick it to Vickery Post or Riewoldt please son.

 

[Lidsand]

of course he got it wrong then and hes got plenty wrong since. white, polak surely he had imput into this, edwards iffy, peterson, connors iffy, and thats just 06.

he got plenty right claw and they are fundamentally good footballers. the grass cutter is not, hell of an athlete and gets plenty of it though

 

[H tiger]

JON was a terrible decision plain and simple.

FJ's decision in the 'superdraft' of 06 to take Jack is starting to look better though. Have a look at those taken before him, the superdraft was going to be better than the Judd, Hodge draft pfft

 

[Hungry]

In FJ's defense re JON, he was very much part time that year and came in late on proceedings - the call was primarily Millers. His drafts since being a full time have been quite good.

I think that's debatable.

Also, I don't think "quite good" will translate into premierships. To do that, our drafting needs to be excellent.

 

[Hungry]

It was Greg Miller, not Francis Jackson, who went over to the Geelong table at the end of the 2005 draft to discuss the future of his preferred selection at #8 - Travis Varcoe.

Their motivation for the 2005 was all wrong.

Miller was crapping on about how we needed a player with "x-factor", and how pick 8 would land us a matchwinner.

So essentially, early into a rebuild, we were prepared to punt on a player who could be anything, or more likely nothing - finding x-factor is surely the hardest thing to recruit.

Why not just try for good footballers? A half a dozen were taken directly after our pick.

Ironically, the player with "x-factor", who looks a great matchwinner has ended up being Shaun Higgins - yep, yet another gift to one of our competitors.

But even then a White, Birchall, Jones or Hurn would have done very nicely - good solid footballers and not a "project player" among them.

 

[Hungry]

Mitch Clark, Marcus Drum, Shaun Higgins, Nathan Jones, Grant Birchall, Travis Varcoe, Richard Douglas.

That my fellow punters is the exact order of the draft after we took the great JON. Lot of really good core footballers in that group.

Must surely be the worst performance of any club in the modern drafting era (2000s). Unbelievable that with the under-18 competition and the general improvement of drafting that one club could stuff it up so royally.

Still, you increase the odds of a poor draft if you only take three choices.

Yes, I am livid about this draft - someone posted a list of the entire draft a few weeks back and it has turned out to be a pretty strong pool of talent, and we have "missed" with every pick - read it and you will weep tears of blood.

I'm also angry about 2007, just not enough picks.

And 2008 irritates me too.

The reason? We all knew Gold Coast was coming - these were the years to stock up FFS!

 

[tigertim]

Surely Freo will be interested? Even though JON has been a complete dud the aura of being pick no. 8 and being a WA boy may still appeal to Freo ( or WCE)? God I hope so! We still might get something out of him after all!

 

[jb03]

But it was CC and he appears ensconced in his position. I would have thought Hislop would be your sort of player IMHO he's doing fairly well as a fwd line enforcer. As for Thomson well he has been injured most of the year.

You still banging on about this. Thomson has played 15 games for Coburg and unable to break into a team whose season was shot after round 1 and has pretty much played every other player on its list. And Hislop, other than to those who seek a poor man's Flemming back at the club was a waste of a trade.

I belive we made a mistake not giving JON a run of 10 games.
He's had 13 games, mostly sitting on the pine.
He hasn't been given a chance in the big time to get settled.
JON does act very confused when he gets the ball though.
Get him on the wing and tell him to get the ball and kick it lace out to the CHF spot.
Just kick it to Vickery Post or Riewoldt please son.

Surely you are taking the *smile* here DDT. You'd be struggling to find a worse AFL player than JON, let alone a top 10 pick.

Must surely be the worst performance of any club in the modern drafting era (2000s). Unbelievable that with the under-18 competition and the general improvement of drafting that one club could stuff it up so royally.

Still, you increase the odds of a poor draft if you only take three choices.

Yes, I am livid about this draft - someone posted a list of the entire draft a few weeks back and it has turned out to be a pretty strong pool of talent, and we have "missed" with every pick - read it and you will weep tears of blood.

I'm also angry about 2007, just not enough picks.

And 2008 irritates me too.

The reason? We all knew Gold Coast was coming - these were the years to stock up FFS!

Good post Hungry.