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Welcome to the Tiggers - Daniel Butler

Wow what a gutless player. I will not watch us next week if him or Ellis are in the team. I refuse to waste my time.
 
Maybe we can put this “3 amigos” cliche rubbish away and just focus on the footy he plays ( which hasn’t been very good either lately....)
 
Time to give Bolton a turn instead of Dan.

At least he's a natural footballer
 
Only 3 players failed to lay a tackle, 1 was Butler the other 2 were Astbury and Short who played for about 5 minutes.
 
Time for Dan to spend some time in the VFL and learn to do the hard stuff, he needs to learn that the team can't just rely on his tricks and showtime, they need him to contribute with his body and hunt the ball.
 
mrposhman said:
Only 3 players failed to lay a tackle, 1 was Butler the other 2 were Astbury and Short who played for about 5 minutes.
did lay 3 tackles last week.
no doubt he is out of form. Doesnt help that we are horrible in going forward except for kicking it to Big Tom Lynch.
Looked to play further up the ground in the last after Cotch went off and Dusty was spelled.
 
I see Butler very similar to George in that he got his chance and made his game around putting pressure on the opposition an not getting much of the ball , simply doing his job and the fact is he was a very important part of a Premiership team. I’ve never rated Butler as a footballer rightly or wrongly, lacks some key ingredients of making it as regular senior footballer and even though we don’t posses a true small forward I think we have better options , very ordinary footballer imho and I really believe his form leaves Dimma no choice but to drop him back to the VFL, hope I’m wrong I just can’t see any position for him in an AFL team. At the risk of getting in the way of another kids development I’d play him on a wing in the VFL and that’s where he’d stay and hopefully help us win a flag in the VFL
 
Mr Brightside said:
I see Butler very similar to George in that he got his chance and made his game around putting pressure on the opposition an not getting much of the ball , simply doing his job and the fact is he was a very important part of a Premiership team. I’ve never rated Butler as a footballer rightly or wrongly, lacks some key ingredients of making it as regular senior footballer and even though we don’t posses a true small forward I think we have better options , very ordinary footballer imho and I really believe his form leaves Dimma no choice but to drop him back to the VFL, hope I’m wrong I just can’t see any position for him in an AFL team. At the risk of getting in the way of another kids development I’d play him on a wing in the VFL and that’s where he’d stay and hopefully help us win a flag in the VFL

Good analysis
 
Mr Brightside said:
I see Butler very similar to George in that he got his chance and made his game around putting pressure on the opposition an not getting much of the ball , simply doing his job and the fact is he was a very important part of a Premiership team. I’ve never rated Butler as a footballer rightly or wrongly, lacks some key ingredients of making it as regular senior footballer and even though we don’t posses a true small forward I think we have better options , very ordinary footballer imho and I really believe his form leaves Dimma no choice but to drop him back to the VFL, hope I’m wrong I just can’t see any position for him in an AFL team. At the risk of getting in the way of another kids development I’d play him on a wing in the VFL and that’s where he’d stay and hopefully help us win a flag in the VFL

I could see Castagna as an average player but I thought Butler would be way better. Going by your thoughts CC, how did 2017 show Dan?
 
TigerForce said:
I could see Castagna as an average player but I thought Butler would be way better. Going by your thoughts CC, how did 2017 show Dan?
I think the key to Butler and Castgna’s success was Jack Reiwoldt, smartest big bloke in the game and then to have a very very smart footballer in Caddy playing right beside them made the look better footballers then they are. You couldn’t deny there efforts and work in been important cogs in the forward line wheel. Facts are they both got the 2 weakest defenders , most times there opponent who actually plays lose and is the oppositions man to go to in delivering out of the back half, bottom line for me is put any high skilled small forward in that team and they kick 50 a season, both make way too many errors and Butler in particular doesn’t even get his hands on the ball when he should be at least making it a 50/50, I really hope they can turn it around and I have egg on my face, as we need some real intensity and flare at the moment.
 
Mr Brightside said:
I think the key to Butler and Castgna’s success was Jack Reiwoldt, smartest big bloke in the game and then to have a very very smart footballer in Caddy playing right beside them made the look better footballers then they are. You couldn’t deny there efforts and work in been important cogs in the forward line wheel. Facts are they both got the 2 weakest defenders , most times there opponent who actually plays lose and is the oppositions man to go to in delivering out of the back half, bottom line for me is put any high skilled small forward in that team and they kick 50 a season, both make way too many errors and Butler in particular doesn’t even get his hands on the ball when he should be at least making it a 50/50, I really hope they can turn it around and I have egg on my face, as we need some real intensity and flare at the moment.

Good and true points, but we've seen Butler show some flair even up to early 2018, whereas Castagna's never had any. Geez, how many times have I seen players wear lower numbers and drop in form forever. Let's hope Higgo doesn't drop.
 
TigerForce said:
Good and true points, but we've seen Butler show some flair even up to early 2018, whereas Castagna's never had any. Geez, how many times have I seen players get lower numbers and drop in form forever. Let's hope Higgo doesn't drop.
Higgo is everything Butler is not.

I’m not sure how some see the game, however Higgo has 21 touches an a goal yesterday playing predominantly in the same area as Butler and some criticise Higgo ::) .

I’m not sure if it has affected Butlers game , however how often do you see Higgo winning the footy in a crumb from a marking contest compared to Butler an George, so much better reader of the crumb, so cleaner with hand and kicks the snaps that should be kicked.

Could you imagine how many goals are Gresham or Cripps would kick crumbing for us and they are not in the Betts league.
 
Mr Brightside said:
Higgo is everything Butler is not.

I’m not sure how some see the game, however Higgo has 21 touches an a goal yesterday playing predominantly in the same area as Butler and some criticise Higgo ::) .

Geez that 21 disposals surprised me. Fair effort by Higgo as at half time he'd had just 4 disposals. He's just a fighter, psychologically strong, won't let a situation get the better of him.