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Welcome to the Tiggers - Daniel Butler

Reading how well Aarts went again yesterday and how poor Butler has been , I’d like to see the VFL form rewarded, I don’t buy into the Amigo chemistry , I want some genuine toughness or class in my small forwards.
 
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Mr Brightside said:
Reading how well Aarts went again yesterday and how poor Butler has been , I’d like to see the VFL form rewarded, I don’t buy into the Amigo chemistry , I want some genuine toughness or class in my small forwards.

Main concern for me over Aarts is his speed. Small forwards that are slow generally get exposed at AFL level.
 
mrposhman said:
Main concern for me over Aarts is his speed. Small forwards that are slow generally get exposed at AFL level.
True, I had the same thoughts on him watching him over the past couple of seasons at VFL , however I reckon his skill level and pace are better then I first gave him credit for. Butler maybe great at the run down tackle, Aarts is a 360 tackler and hurts them, I reckon there a bit of Jake King about him as a small forward and without Caddy throwing his chest around in the forward 50 I think Aarts is a better option at this point with his aggression
 
Slap some tatts on jake Arts and we have a cross between Kingy and Jamie Elliott , reward the kid for good form in the ressies ,see what he's got , not sure who he replaces but Weller abd Butler do come to mind
 
I made an early call that Butler should not have been rewarded for the round 1 clash due to being totally out of sorts in the JLT. Rewarding players that are out of form is the ultimate act of arrogance. Many posters who disagreed are now calling Hardwick arrogant for not making changes to game plans and blaming everyone and anyone. Get back to basics. Pick players that are inform and fit. Baker has had an impeccable preseason and played well in JLT. Deserves a chance. Butler does not, no matter how many tackles he makes. If that is the only criteria, recruit Usain Bolt.
 
Both Butler and George should have been made to get form and touch in the VFL, but injuries and VFL schedule (playing praccy matches still) forced our hand. I hope that’s the case, because team selection so far is very team selection 2016.
 
CarnTheTiges said:
Both Butler and George should have been made to get form and touch in the VFL, but injuries and VFL schedule (playing praccy matches still) forced our hand. I hope that’s the case, because team selection so far is very team selection 2016.

Yep. I don't know why we're playing underdone players for a risk. Caddy might be next.
 
I am siding with Dyerereee here. Butler has had a couple of halfbag games, but had the endeavour to go each time.
Not the cause of the loss. He can do better and is building.

You only drop him if you want a scapegoat for last thursday.
 
Does 3-4 crap things does something clever followed by another 3-4 crap things.
 
It’s not worth focusing on individuals.

The only way to win premierships is by playing to the strengths of the list. Need to tweak the game plan so Butler, George etc are doing better than the other team’s equivalent players. That’s what it comes down to. Dropping these type of players achieves nothing.
 
never again.

It's not like we don't have other options.

Absolute waste of space.
 
123kid said:
It’s not worth focusing on individuals.

The only way to win premierships is by playing to the strengths of the list. Need to tweak the game plan so Butler, George etc are doing better than the other team’s equivalent players. That’s what it comes down to. Dropping these type of players achieves nothing.

Individuals need to be accountable for their performances. If they are not having a go they need to go.

Butler is not having a go.
 
I'm done with this guy. Too many nothing games. Just doesn't ever stand up when the team is down, and simply isn't kicking goals or having an offensive impact at all.
 
DragicevicFan said:
Lifted his workrate after 3/4 time, but still couldn't get his hands on it.

this is what worries me about him. Shines a bit when he wants to ...