Welcome to the Tiggers - Daniel Butler

[tigerlove]

Disagree with Lovey , great highlights. If Butler becomes a 20 plus player through wing or the guts we will be better for it.

Pace and composure from stoppages is gold. We missed him in the finals and in retrospect Butler for Conca was the go, even with limited preperation.

Wing maybe, in the guts, no way. Just can't see a guy in his 5th season (next year) with a career average disposal count of 11 and 4 contested and with quite a poor disposal efficiency (64%) suddenly becoming a composed midfielder in the guts. Butler is a role player, he's never going to take the game by storm. Good solid opportunistic forward who applies good pressure by using his pace. He'll be fighting for his spot next year.

 

[Merveille]

Geez, I was expecting to see some recent footage. That's from 2014. It didn't look that impressive to me either, he was getting caught a lot with tackles but breaking out because they aren't as strong at that age. From that I'd say there's no way he moves to a midfielder role, he probably would have already had a lot of exposure to that at VFL level if that was his game. Rioli's a different story, he has that extra class and can turn on a dime.

Of course he is breaking out of tackles they are inside contested balls - and no they aren't as strong but he was a kid too. I think you sell him way short - one year in the ones and he broke several games open for us with some brilliance and tricks.
I am not saying he is Maurice Rioli but I think it should be tried. He uses it well too. You think he's soft?

As for the stats, a permanent small forward does not have big numbers. Yes he played a role thus numbers are limited.
Sean Higgins is the gauge - opportunistic flanker who grew with maturity and opportunity into a mid gun

 

[tigerlove]

Of course he is breaking out of tackles they are inside contested balls - and no they aren't as strong but he was a kid too. I think you sell him way short - one year in the ones and he broke several games open for us with some brilliance and tricks.
I am not saying he is Maurice Rioli but I think it should be tried. He uses it well too. You think he's soft?

2014 video. No games played midfield since at VFL or AFL level. There's a reason for that. He's not good enough for that role. Nothing to do with being soft. He has speed but doesn't have that core strength required or the evasive skills required of the position. I agree he has shown some brilliance as a high-pressure forward and that's where he has mad his mark and will stay.

As for the stats, a permanent small forward does not have big numbers. Yes he played a role thus numbers are limited.
Sean Higgins is the gauge - opportunistic flanker who grew with maturity and opportunity into a mid gun

He is no Shaun Higgins. Higgins has always shown immense class and you could see he was destined for midfield time, a lot like you can see the potential for Rioli and our own Higgins. I like Butler I just don;t think he's a midfielder whatsoever despite his apparent promising highlights reel at junior level.

 

[lamb22]

Lovey doesn't rate Butler. Fair enough. His bad.

I like his comment about Butler lacking evasive skills. It's like saying Cox lacks height.

 

[tigerlove]

Lovey doesn't rate Butler. Fair enough. His bad.

I like his comment about Butler lacking evasive skills. It's like saying Cox lacks height.

I do rate Butler as a forward. And yes he doesn't have the evasive skills in tight that is required of an AFL quality midfielder. I do like your attempt to misrepresent my comments though. Whatever gives you a chuckle. I'm happy to wager that Butler will never become an on ball midfielder.

 

[lamb22]

I'm happy to wager that Butler will never become an on ball midfielder.

Try Sportsbet.

 

[tigerlove]

Try Sportsbet.

I don't gamble money, just beers.

 

[Tigertool]

9th in the BnF before his injury struck in round 16. Finished 9th last year too.

Very important player. Cannot wait to get him back next year.

 

[Sintiger]

Lovey doesn't rate Butler. Fair enough. His bad.

I like his comment about Butler lacking evasive skills. It's like saying Cox lacks height.

I rate butler and we did miss him but I agree on the evasive skills. When he runs in a straight line he doesn’t have the ability to dummy like Edwards or Rioli for example.

To me he is a forward and a valuable one but not a midfielder

 

[lamb22]

9th in the BnF before his injury struck in round 16. Finished 9th last year too.

Very important player. Cannot wait to get him back next year.

Yep criminally underrated by some on here.

 

[Scoop]

9th in the BnF before his injury struck in round 16. Finished 9th last year too.

Very important player. Cannot wait to get him back next year.

Good pick up. I saw that too and was kinda shocked.

Clearly does his role very well to the coaching panels liking.

We missed his class and ability to do the freakish in the back half of the year.

 

[Tigertool]

Yep criminally underrated by some on here.

Agree Lamby. Absolutely bizarre.

Good pick up. I saw that too and was kinda shocked.

Clearly does his role very well to the coaching panels liking.

We missed his class and ability to do the freakish in the back half of the year.

Yep. He was the highest BnF placer of our mozzies last year, and played 2 less games than Castagna and Rioli.

Coaches love him, and for good reason.

 

[Rod]

Butler does a lot of his best work inthe last quarter. Coincidence that our last quarters later in the year were nowhere as strong as when he was in the side?

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Butler does a lot of his best work inthe last quarter. Coincidence that our last quarters later in the year were nowhere as strong as when he was in the side?

Spot on.

It would be interesting to see a rundown as to what percentage of his goals are scored in the last quarter.

Underrated player.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Spot on.

It would be interesting to see a rundown as to what percentage of his goals are scored in the last quarter.

Underrated player.

Only underrated by some.

 

[tigerdave]

We missed Butler big time.

 

[tigerlove]

Yep. He was the highest BnF placer of our mozzies last year, and played 2 less games than Castagna and Rioli.

??? Butler played 15 home and away games this year, Rioli played 10. If 1 out of the 3 had to play, I'd choose Rioli, then Butler, then Castagna.

 

[Tigertool]

??? Butler played 15 home and away games this year, Rioli played 10. If 1 out of the 3 had to play, I'd choose Rioli, then Butler, then Castagna.

What's the puzzled emote for? Was something about my statement incorrect?

 

[tigerlove]

What's the puzzled emote for? Was something about my statement incorrect?

I actually put in a question mark, not sure why it turned into an emotive thing. I realise now you were referring to 2017, not the last year of footy just gone? I do think Butler is very important for our forward setup but Rioli has taken his game to another level this year which probably showed out in his best average votes per game amongst the small forward fleet this year just past.

 

[lamb22]

I actually put in a question mark, not sure why it turned into an emotive thing. I realise now you were referring to 2017, not the last year of footy just gone? I do think Butler is very important for our forward setup but Rioli has taken his game to another level this year which probably showed out in his best average votes per game amongst the small forward fleet this year just past.

Its not either or Lovey. Tigers hunt in packs. We only had the three amigos together for 4 games. Butler probably makes Rioli more dangerous and vice versa just like Lynchy should make Jack even more dangerous.