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bullus_hit said:
That maybe true, 400k seems a fair bit, that's why getting Grundy for an extra 300k makes perfect sense, you upgrade that position without compromising other areas on the field. This is how I would have played it -

Taranto for pick 12, Soldo & future 3rd.

Pick 19 - Grundy

Pick 31 - Lemmey

Grab Mitchell for a junk pick, maybe future second, I think he's being undersold, still top 5 in B&F.

That also protects our future first next year & gives us a red hot chance at grabbing a second tall forward.
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I dont think that deal would have been accepted for taranto
Bringing in Grundy would have been easier and even #30 if we were interested or Grundy wanting to come

Mitchell i like his ball winning ability and that suits us but he has no defensive traits which doesnt suit our game and its probably the main concern.


Just disappointing that our draft hand is looking like 1-2 picks in the 60's
 
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turk-d-tiger said:
I dont think that deal would have been accepted for taranto
Bringing in Grundy would have been easier and even #30 if we were interested or Grundy wanting to come

Mitchell i like his ball winning ability and that suits us but he has no defensive traits which doesnt suit our game and its probably the main concern.


Just disappointing that our draft hand is looking like 1-2 picks in the 60's
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I think however you slice & dice it, we had the draft capital to get Taranto, Grundy & a junior key forward. I was being pretty generous with Grundy at 19, Collingwood only want a pick inside the top 25, we can shuffle 19 & 31 to get either Keeler or Lemmey. GWS would take 12, Soldo & future pick, surely Soldo & future pick=19.

As for Mitchell, I think for a bloke who polled 25 votes at the Brownlow last year & still managed a top 5 finish in this year's B&F, he would have been totally fine & would have complimented Taranto & Grundy perfectly. He's still elite at clearances, his tackling numbers are fine & he still hasn't hit 30.

For that late pick we could also add Knobel, that's everything on the menu from my perspective & 2 really promising talls, one a viable ruck/forward (Knobel reminds me a bit of Mason Cox).
 
This is dragging on.

What’s the hold up.

Who is playing hardball here?

Doesn’t leave us much as in picks this year which possibly means some players might bd lucky to be on the list and maybe why:

Pick 31, F1 & Soldo
Pick 12 & 19 already gone.

In my eyes no matter which way you look at or stats are presented this is too much.
 
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bullus_hit said:
I think however you slice & dice it, we had the draft capital to get Taranto, Grundy & a junior key forward. I was being pretty generous with Grundy at 19, Collingwood only want a pick inside the top 25, we can shuffle 19 & 31 to get either Keeler or Lemmey. GWS would take 12, Soldo & future pick, surely Soldo & future pick=19.

As for Mitchell, I think for a bloke who polled 25 votes at the Brownlow last year & still managed a top 5 finish in this year's B&F, he would have been totally fine & would have complimented Taranto & Grundy perfectly. He's still elite at clearances, his tackling numbers are fine & he still hasn't hit 30.

For that late pick we could also add Knobel, that's everything on the menu from my perspective & 2 really promising talls, one a viable ruck/forward (Knobel reminds me a bit of Mason Cox).
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I will give it to you Bully you are persistent.

And you do make some very valid points here, and I hope like hell the 2 boys turn out as good as we hope (I'm sure they will).

Some will say we have sold the farm to a degree (others wont) if that trade discussed is correct overall for the two, but we have had great success with our late picks of late so hopefully that continues.

We all see things differently with players and I would rather have kept Soldo over Hugo at this point with hedging our bets on a fifth person on the bench next year (possibly), but it's actually an irrelevant argument as Hugo said no anyway, and you cant trade a contracted player against his will.

I just think young Ryan needs one more year in the VFL to mature that bit more, and hopefully dominate at that level with maybe a game or two in the seniors.
 
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It sounds like the big trade for Horne-Francis, Rioli, etc. could be back on. GWS are involved in it with some pick swaps, so hopefully that is the hold up, something from that coming back to us.
 
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I'm just sad about the prospect of losing Soldo ... a good man, premiership champion and Richmond Man to his bootlaces.
 
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This mega trade would be the hold up.

I suspect GWS are waiting to see this deal to go through before finalising their trade with us. If they end up with a couple of third round picks I would suspect one would be coming our way.
 
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The longer this goes the better for us if gws are over salary cap next year. We want this done 10 mins before deadline.


Stay calm.

Patience young Palawan.
 
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Smoking Aces said:
This mega trade would be the hold up.

I suspect GWS are waiting to see this deal to go through before finalising their trade with us. If they end up with a couple of third round picks I would suspect one would be coming our way.
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Let's hope so otherwise they're teasing us. I just hope we're not the ones sulking over Soldo.
 
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Number8 said:
For what it's worth, there is talk that GWS's pick 66 could come in as low as pick 50, because clubs will be passing en masse on picks in the 50s and beyond.
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I assume also picks used purely for points also get removed from the draft order?
 
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