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But we will have already done our sums and included Soldo for next year, so whether he plays for us or not is irrelevant, we have space in the cap for his wage. If he is included in the trade, we would just negotiate that we would pay whatever he earns over a first year players salary which means we are net zero on our cap and GWS get Soldo essentially for a 1st years draftee wage if we did that.

From what we know, we don't need to trade anyone out to pay Hopper and Taranto, so if we were to include paying the wages of anyone we include in the trade, then the only thing we need to cover is the cost of the draftee that replaces that player on the list.

Well summed up Posh.
Trading out someone or two out may turn out not to be necessary as you say, but possibly a better option for a contracted player or players who may feel their place is under threat, and for a team now looking (after last years successful draft), to pick up draftees to fill specific positions.

Preparing to invest in the 2023 draft may still be on the cards..
 
I reckon those deals are thereabouts. Some look good for GWS in hindsight, particularly Sheil and Treloar, but at the time that is what it took, we would have paid the same for Treloar and PRE would have been stoked. Love the Bomber duo, they got gloriously dudded, but again I would have done that deal for Smith at the time. The Sheil one looked overs at the time, but not the crazy overs that its turned out as.

I think in general people are overvaluing draft picks. You have to look at the pick that was given up and consider what are the odds of drafting a player of that quality with that pick.
im no trelor fan due to what he did to tigers,but his stats are super elite , career dis 27.5 gls .59,there likely is no tiger player ever that would find more ball than that and he was at collingwood a absalute line breaker.
 
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Robbie has a good working relationship with the RFC.
I expect this will happen.
 
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From a extremely quick browse, 39 at least since 2011.
Haarrgh.
Poor old Gee Whizz, since their inception and over their brief history of eleven whole years. They've managed to stink it up, pretend to become a veritable untouchable power house, get within sniffing distance of premiership glory, sink ignominiously back into the mire of stinking things up.

Not a bad effort for a club that's owned nearly all the early draft picks for a decade. Give the bastards bare minimum for Tarantino n Grasshopper, make em earn their keep the hard way just like everybody else does.
 
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Haarrgh.
Poor old Gee Whizz, since their inception and over their brief history of eleven whole years. They've managed to stink it up, pretend to become a veritable untouchable power house, get within sniffing distance of premiership glory, sink ignominiously back into the mire of stinking things up.

Not a bad effort for a club that's owned nearly all the early draft picks for a decade. Give the bastards bare minimum for Tarantino n Grasshopper, make em earn their keep the hard way just like everybody else does.
GWS and Gold Coast are in that vortex they aint getting out for a long time.

Theyve become feeder clubs.
 
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Having a look at the age make up of premiership teams the general rule is to have 50/50 split on players over 100 games to under. Even the so called baby Bombers of 1993 had multiple players well over 100 games

Even if Jack and Trent retire we will have 14 players over 100 games next year and that is not counting Tarrant or Castagna

So yes crazy good position
Can I ask why you didn’t count Tarrant or castagna?
 
GWS and Gold Coast are in that vortex they aint getting out for a long time.

Theyve become feeder clubs.
GC can at least get players, they just do poor deals like offering 4 yrs for B.Long!
GWS inability to manage the cap needs far more attention that it's getting. They have made an absolute meal of it.
 
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Don't mind GC targetting Long.

He's definitely the type they need i.e. pace from the backline.
 
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Firstly let’s look at the age demographic. Taranto effectively still in the window to hit his prime. Mitchell and Crouch at the tail end of their careers. Mitchell will be 30 next year and Crouch will be 28.

Secondly Taranto can play a mixture of midfield and forward. The other two have no flexibility. Plus the fact they are onw paced.

That’s why you need to pay to get the likes of Taranto. No different to Carlton paying up to get Cerra etc.

First round drafts aren’t the only solution to fixing a glaring deficiency in your list. I would argue to say we are one of the best clubs to identify talent later on in the draft. We will still hold onto a couple of picks post number 30 and I have every confidence we could still have a very fruitful draft period.
Not to mention we had 5 picks inside the top 30 last year.
The best alternative to being crap again and have access too top 5 picks(Dusty & Cotch) is to trade.
Taranto(#2) & Hopper(#7) gets pretty close.
 
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With Shed & Lambert retired, and the Chimp to retire next year, we really need both the Hopper and Taranto trades to get done.

Dusty's 32 next year & Prestia who turns 30 next month, and is injury prone. Shai's age demographic is great. We have Ross and Sonsie as developing mids, and used Shorty in the guts with Bakes in there at times.

While not like for like, Hopper and Taranto are in effect, replacing Shed and Lambert.

If we don't get Hopper & Taranto, both RCD and Dow will need to stay, because the cupboard is bare, and we're a couple of injuries away from being snookered.
 
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GC can at least get players, they just do poor deals like offering 4 yrs for B.Long!
GWS inability to manage the cap needs far more attention that it's getting. They have made an absolute meal of it.

The bulging GWS salary cap is just the symptom

Their problem is, and was from the very beginning, the recruitment plan that focused on getting top 10 draft picks only. All their first round picks want to look pretty and want the mega contract. Very few want to do the hard work.

The best example is Lambert. Picked up in the rookie draft and then worked his backside off and this allowed Dusty to strut his stuff

Until GWS change their recruitment strategy they will always have salary cap pressure and will continue to have players leave
 
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The bulging GWS salary cap is just the symptom

Their problem is, and was from the very beginning, the recruitment plan that focused on getting top 10 draft picks only. All their first round picks want to look pretty and want the mega contract. Very few want to do the hard work.

The best example is Lambert. Picked up in the rookie draft and then worked his backside off and this allowed Dusty to strut his stuff

Until GWS change their recruitment strategy they will always have salary cap pressure and will continue to have players leave
GWS is in a world of hurt with their cap situation
Greene
Kelly
Coniglio
Whitfield
Himmelberg
Haynes (reported a back ended contract nearly $1 mil)

all expecting big increases
Taylor
Green
Callaghan
Stone
Cumming
Ash
Buckley
 
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GWS is in a world of hurt with their cap situation
Greene
Kelly
Coniglio
Whitfield
Himmelberg
Haynes (reported a back ended contract nearly $1 mil)

all expecting big increases
Taylor
Green
Callaghan
Stone
Cumming
Ash
Buckley
And Tim Goulds & Jed Lamb
 
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GWS is in a world of hurt with their cap situation
Greene
Kelly
Coniglio
Whitfield
Himmelberg
Haynes (reported a back ended contract nearly $1 mil)

all expecting big increases
Taylor
Green
Callaghan
Stone
Cumming
Ash
Buckley
Happy to take Stone from them also if they need more space (y)

Then take Green in a year or two.
 
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Happy to take Stone from them also if they need more space (y)

Then take Green in a year or two.

I am actually surprised we haven't gone the Green and Taranto option instead of Hopper/Taranto
 
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