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At least Robbo tonight said that GWS has always over rated players leaving the club.. He said players like Judd & Ablett were the only ones worth 2 1st rounders.
He said Tyson Jackson is no way worth 2 top 10 picks.
And then said Hopper is no way worth 2 1st rounders & Pinoccio agreed.
Let it be picks 12, 19 and next year's 1st gets us Tarranto & Hopper.
We will get the best early Xmas present.
The more they down play Hopper the better for us.
 
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The media and all footy personalities are so quick to jump on us and others for apparently raiding gws players. When will the spotlight turn the other way?

They have been so overpaid for every player that ever wanted out, but they have never done anything with those picks.

Dylan shiel for a 2 top 15 picks.
Top 15 pick for zac Williams
Pick 6 for Tom boyd
2nd rounder for Adam Tomlinson
Pick 25 for Matt Kennedy
Will Settlefield pick 43 and future Carlton 2nd rounder
Jack Steele for a 2nd rounder
Heath Shaw for Taylor adams
Rory Lobb for pick 11 and 19
Devon smith for pick 11
Adam treloar for 2 top 10 picks

Every trade GWS has ever made, they should have won on paper. They have been over compensated for any player to ever leave there. There is something wrong with the foundations of that club to not have been able to take advantage how rewarded they have been for the players wanting out.

They can ask what they want for hopper and Taranto, but we can’t give overs like other clubs have and we have the upper hand with them wanting to come to us.
 
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Not sure about the Graham back to SA talk that keeps getting a run. He's never shown any inclination to return and has lived with his partner ever since he moved over I believe.
 
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The only value for other clubs in those players was Jack Steele. The rest GWS have made out like bandits.

Treloar, Boyd, Lobb and Shiel have been a disaster for the clubs they went to.

Hopefully its about to turn around.
 
Not sure about the Graham back to SA talk that keeps getting a run. He's never shown any inclination to return and has lived with his partner ever since he moved over I believe.
Agree - expecting interest from Bombers, Kangas and GWS.
 
I wonder how many first round picks they've had since inception. It's astonishing they haven't been able to rebuild on the run.
That is where their thinking is wrong. First round picks are all well and good but the salary cap limits how many you can have.

What GWS should do is add some rookies, players who will bust a gut to play. We have done that and found some beauties - Lambert Baker

So we should help them out and give them our fouth and fifth round picks
 
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That is where their thinking is wrong. First round picks are all well and good but the salary cap limits how many you can have.

What GWS should do is add some rookies, players who will bust a gut to play. We have done that and found some beauties - Lambert Baker

So we should help them out and give them our fouth and fifth round picks
Good thinking, 99.

 
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The media and all footy personalities are so quick to jump on us and others for apparently raiding gws players. When will the spotlight turn the other way?

They have been so overpaid for every player that ever wanted out, but they have never done anything with those picks.

Dylan shiel for a 2 top 15 picks.
Top 15 pick for zac Williams
Pick 6 for Tom boyd
2nd rounder for Adam Tomlinson
Pick 25 for Matt Kennedy
Will Settlefield pick 43 and future Carlton 2nd rounder
Jack Steele for a 2nd rounder
Heath Shaw for Taylor adams
Rory Lobb for pick 11 and 19
Devon smith for pick 11
Adam treloar for 2 top 10 picks

Every trade GWS has ever made, they should have won on paper. They have been over compensated for any player to ever leave there. There is something wrong with the foundations of that club to not have been able to take advantage how rewarded they have been for the players wanting out.

They can ask what they want for hopper and Taranto, but we can’t give overs like other clubs have and we have the upper hand with them wanting to come to us.
Agree. Tarranto & Hopper would be looking around and saying hows that bloke on 300k more. *smile* this I'm out 1st chance
 
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The only value for other clubs in those players was Jack Steele. The rest GWS have made out like bandits.

Treloar, Boyd, Lobb and Shiel have been a disaster for the clubs they went to.

Hopefully its about to turn around.
The other trade GWS "lost" on was Adams for a washed up Heath Shaw.
 
GWS are overpaying Kelly and Coniglio who won't leave coz no other club would pay their contracts so GWS are stuck with them. Taranto and Hopper are imo better players on much less and would rightly demand better contracts. GWS won't be able to keep them so we should have some leverage.
 
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A quick look at the GWS list says they have less players u21, u22 and u23 than we do.

and they have just 4 players (inc. Hopper) born in 96/97. their list is a mess. obviously they need to clear cap space, but they should then target guys like Graham and Baker (just 2 examples from us- could be similar players elsewhere)- good players, but hard workers, and in that mid 20 age range. but they would be forced to overpay $$$wise to get anyone to agree to move there.
 
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A quick look at the GWS list says they have less players u21, u22 and u23 than we do.

and they have just 4 players (inc. Hopper) born in 96/97. their list is a mess. obviously they need to clear cap space, but they should then target guys like Graham and Baker (just 2 examples from us- could be similar players elsewhere)- good players, but hard workers, and in that mid 20 age range. but they would be forced to overpay $$$wise to get anyone to agree to move there.

you compare that to us where our list profile is in magnificent shape. 6 players made their finals debut this year. If you add Hopper and Taranto, about a third of our best 22 is in that 24-27 peak age bracket. The other third is 150+ games experience and multiple premierships.

For a team that just won 3 flags, we are in a crazy good position.
 
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you compare that to us where our list profile is in magnificent shape. 6 players made their finals debut this year. If you add Hopper and Taranto, about a third of our best 22 is in that 24-27 peak age bracket. The other third is 150+ games experience and multiple premierships.

For a team that just won 3 flags, we are in a crazy good position.
it may be hard now with some of the contracts they have, but i reckon they almost need to try again with their list build. They best players are just ok, except Toby Greene, and their list of youngsters is just average.
 
you compare that to us where our list profile is in magnificent shape. 6 players made their finals debut this year. If you add Hopper and Taranto, about a third of our best 22 is in that 24-27 peak age bracket. The other third is 150+ games experience and multiple premierships.

For a team that just won 3 flags, we are in a crazy good position.

Having a look at the age make up of premiership teams the general rule is to have 50/50 split on players over 100 games to under. Even the so called baby Bombers of 1993 had multiple players well over 100 games

Even if Jack and Trent retire we will have 14 players over 100 games next year and that is not counting Tarrant or Castagna

So yes crazy good position
 
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