Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

[eZyT]

Watson takes ducking for frees to new levels. Whenever he is near the ball in a contest he is preparing and thinking about getting possession then ducking, or doing those simultaneously. Ginnivan is similar, but isn't as short and doesn't do it quite as much. Selwood invented it and did it a lot, but nothing on these guys. I don't see what the solution is, everyone knows its wrong but nobody knows that to do about it, and it is so deeply ingrained in their game that I can't see it changing.

I find it very hard to watch.

in the old days, the crowd yelled

'he *smile* ducked'

and the ump went 'no, you ducked'

whether it was a rule or not I dont know but

1. the players didn't play for it, because
2. it wouldn't be paid.

adjudicate like that again, and its career over for Ginnivan, and a major reprogram for Watson.

the thing that infuriates me more about Watson is he doesn't need to do it. he has talent enough to be a star playing in the spirit of the game

 

[CarnTheTiges]

in the old days, the crowd yelled

'he *smile* ducked'

and the ump went 'no, you ducked'

whether it was a rule or not I dont know but

1. the players didn't play for it, because
2. it wouldn't be paid.

adjudicate like that again, and its career over for Ginnivan, and a major reprogram for Watson.

the thing that infuriates me more about Watson is he doesn't need to do it. he has talent enough to be a star playing in the spirit of the game

Unless he’s like his team mate Ginnivan who finds it funny to milk head high frees so he can kick goals easier.

 

[Sintiger]

AFL desperately want Pies playing finals
Look at all the decisions going Pies way there was no way North would be allowed to win

Yeah maybe but if you recall they did get the “didn’t hand the ball back to the umpire” free against them a few weeks ago.

I don’t think there is a conspiracy they are just examples of *smile* umpiring based on a load of *smile* rules and interpretations put together by *smile* administrators running the game.

 

[Willo]

Watson takes ducking for frees to new levels. Whenever he is near the ball in a contest he is preparing and thinking about getting possession then ducking, or doing those simultaneously. Ginnivan is similar, but isn't as short and doesn't do it quite as much. Selwood invented it and did it a lot, but nothing on these guys. I don't see what the solution is, everyone knows its wrong but nobody knows that to do about it, and it is so deeply ingrained in their game that I can't see it changing.

I find it very hard to watch.

This will be from left field but it would work with instant results.
The afl should Inform the clubs that any ducking or throwing the arm up to draw a free kick the umpires will be instructed to pay a free kick against the ducker.
That would be justice, no staging, no potential concussion injuries. Players would soon get it out of their repertoire, or the coaches would if they kept having to give the ball over..

 

[Disco]

This will be from left field but it would work with instant results.
The afl should Inform the clubs that any ducking or throwing the arm up to draw a free kick the umpires will be instructed to pay a free kick against the ducker.
That would be justice, no staging, no potential concussion injuries. Players would soon get it out of their repertoire, or the coaches would if they kept having to give the ball over..

This x 1000.
The solution is so simple and staring them in the face. Yet the AFL are so incompetent.

 

[Nico]

You saying push up wasn’t a Richmond man ?

Kind of before the whole Richmond Man ethos came about. I don't think he was much of a milker...he was just a short *smile*, compared to Watson who's a short *smile* and a *smilin* *smile*.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Why is Kane fronting the media and ‘explaining’ this anyway? Shouldn’t that be the ex umpire McBurney?

Burney's to busy hiding under the bed hoping Setka won't find him.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Bulldust. My point was nobody called play-on. You said you would have called play-on "as well", as well as who? nobody called play on. This is the bloody point man! The whistle blew for the mark, 2 collingwood players heard it, saw the mark taken, and charge 10 metres over the mark, that is a textbook, lay down misere 50m penalty. The players are not allowed to pre-empt the play on call, which is what the 2 collingwood players did, that is the whole point and that is why these 50s get paid!

The mistake was not that the ump didn't call play on. Whether it was play on or not in this case is up for debate, but even if it was, its irrelevant. It happens all the time that a player moves to play on, ump doesn't get time or is too slow to call play on, player on the mark moves to impede, 50m penalty. happens all the time with far far far less extreme movements, and in most cases its one player and not 2.

Ooooh dearie me, humblest of apologies snakey one. Old fart miss spoke by putting in the " as well " comment. Simple then from watching the replay of the incident, I, in my humble n insignificant opinion would have called the #Lolnorf player as play on, simply because the bloke was off like a mouldy chop. As for all the rest of what happened and the ensuing angst, meh just usual AFL.

Dunno why anyone bothers to waste their time getting all convoluted over the umpiring or the gibberish from HQ.
1 Players been cheating n pushing the boundaries of the rules ever since I've been watching.
2 Umpires been incompetent n just plain wrong for just as long.
3 And best of all HQ has been manipulating n over regulating the game pretending they've got half an idea n that Joe public are *smile* wits for just as long too

 

[TigerForce]

Well said Michael Graham....

 

[DavidSSS]

How can any player prevent a high tackle on this dwarf?

Ask Liam Baker, he's short, gets his head ripped off every week and never gets a free.

Watson takes ducking for frees to new levels. Whenever he is near the ball in a contest he is preparing and thinking about getting possession then ducking, or doing those simultaneously. Ginnivan is similar, but isn't as short and doesn't do it quite as much. Selwood invented it and did it a lot, but nothing on these guys. I don't see what the solution is, everyone knows its wrong but nobody knows that to do about it, and it is so deeply ingrained in their game that I can't see it changing.

I find it very hard to watch.

I know what the solution is: Rule 22.2.2(u) a player who is "engaging in an act of staging" has committed a reportable offence. Simple, but all too common in AFL, solution - enforce the bloody rules as written.

DS

 

[MD Jazz]

Ask Liam Baker, he's short, gets his head ripped off every week and never gets a free.

I know what the solution is: Rule 22.2.2(u) a player who is "engaging in an act of staging" has committed a reportable offence. Simple, but all too common in AFL, solution - enforce the bloody rules as written.

DS

Yeh, Liam the only little bloke in AFL history not on the positive side of the free kick ledger.

As you suggest, if they only enforced the rules and stopped trying to tweak interpreatations to create more "dusty moments" there wouldn't be the current confusion and outrage.

And everyone raving on about that *smile* Watson, he should not be getting rewarded based on the AFL statement released 2 years ago - but clearly not followed up consistently & correctly. They basically outlawed it 2 years ago.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07...down-on-playing-for-high-free-kicks/101251964

As you suggest DS, if the AFL simply enforced the written rules and did what they said they would do we would not be in this position.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Getting rid of the stand rule would also fix a few issues.

 

[Willo]

Thinking someone needs to untangle their panties, obviously all bunched up n restricting blood flow.

There’s a few on here like that. Must be buying undersized or poor fitting underwear. Blue faces everywhere

 

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[CarnTheTiges]

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-77 vs +55 and there are those who would have us believe that Hardwick’s take no prisoners style of coaching is what cost the team free kicks. Same coach and style, but different club. The AFL would never victimise one club, would they?

 

[RoarEmotion]

This will be from left field but it would work with instant results.
The afl should Inform the clubs that any ducking or throwing the arm up to draw a free kick the umpires will be instructed to pay a free kick against the ducker.
That would be justice, no staging, no potential concussion injuries. Players would soon get it out of their repertoire, or the coaches would if they kept having to give the ball over..

Just have it be bringing the game into disrepute and a suspension. Will end very very quickly.

Posted this before I read David’s post. Suspend.

 

[bigwow]

Jay Clark on MMM with Brayshaw & Brownless this arvo, reckons something could be brewing.
There's much discontent with umpiring and AFL responses. 4 umpires has made it worse, and the stand rule needs to go.

 

[tigermouseau]

This will be from left field but it would work with instant results.
The afl should Inform the clubs that any ducking or throwing the arm up to draw a free kick the umpires will be instructed to pay a free kick against the ducker.
That would be justice, no staging, no potential concussion injuries. Players would soon get it out of their repertoire, or the coaches would if they kept having to give the ball over..

We’ve been there, done that when ginivan was at the pies. We’ve done that staging too, with little success. I recall both Vlastuin and grimes were reported and found guilty of staging in the same game, but they got off on appeal.
Was a rule they paid for a little while but now they have dropped it from their repertoire.

 

[RoarEmotion]

Jay Clark on MMM with Brayshaw & Brownless this arvo, reckons something could be brewing.
There's much discontent with umpiring and AFL responses. 4 umpires has made it worse, and the stand rule needs to go.

Yep we would have been better going to 2 umpires and paying them lots but also making them more accountable.

The reason the finals are always umpired better is that the *smile* umpires get dropped (except 1st round in Brisbane).

Please please let the stand rule get removed.

 

[UKTiger]

It is all very well that the AFL say they are satisfied with the HTB rule tweak but I wonder if they could now get the rule change to be equally and fairly called for all clubs and not just for the favoured few