Yeah, they only have to have the fitness and athleticism to run 10-15 km and position themselves around a huge field, with 44 players on it, and make decisions on a 360 degree game with a large set of complicated rules containing many points of interpretation.
If you don't think it is amongst the hardest games to umpire you don't know sport.
There’s too many umpires (4) with differing interpretaions were stretching the available ump ”talent” to cover gamesIt certainly is an extremely hard game to adjudicate. It's become even more so with the AFL making unnecessary & ridiculously difficult to interpret rule changes.
Simplify the rules a little & I believe the umpiring standard will improve
I'm trying to understand this logic.
A clear error is made. 2 field umpires + 2 boundary umpires there to see it. Collingwood players disputing it. Discuss. Fix it. If Geelong won last night, this would be a massive issue in the media.
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Can always rely on old David Dunning-Kruger to arrive on cue.
Yes, DDK, the umpires officiate the match in line with the rules and if you read the next paragraph, the rules say:
- Unless otherwise determined by the relevant Controlling Body, the duties
of a boundary Umpire shall include without limitation:
- (i) judging whether a football is Out of Bounds or Out of Bounds On the Full and signalling to the field Umpire when that has occurred;
So no, a field umpire can't call it out of bounds, it is the boundary umpires job, without limitation.
Good one Big Noter, that does not preclude the field umpire from calling the ball out of bounds, what it does do is define the boundary umpire's role. Learn to read.
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There’s too many umpires (4) with differing interpretaions were stretching the available ump ”talent” to cover games
3 umpires was enough 4 are too many
About 97%I think that's a big generalisation without evidence to support it.
In the past umpires have consistently been audited at about 80 odd % accuracy on the whistle and 70 odd % in total. Would be interesting to see what those numbers look like this season with 4 operating.
Simple solution. More Umpires.Good one Big Noter, that does not preclude the field umpire from calling the ball out of bounds, what it does do is define the boundary umpire's role. Learn to read.
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Oh, apparently now the field umpire was supposed to bring it to the attention of the boundary umpire, I'll sit back and watch as this particular argument falls in a heap.
Wow. I didn’t see the game and this is the first time I’ve seen an image of the incident.I'm trying to understand this logic.
A clear error is made. 2 field umpires + 2 boundary umpires there to see it. Collingwood players disputing it. Discuss. Fix it. If Geelong won last night, this would be a massive issue in the media.
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Of course it does, DDK, well done.
Some of us hate the Pussies moreThe biggest surprise in this is how many people care that collingwood was shafted
Let everyone kick goals from the stands against the pricks I say
Frog *smile* TBR. The handball by Close while he was outside the boundary to Jizza who was also well outside the boundary was at a stoppage play with the field umpire ten metres away and also a boundary umpire about the same distance away watching closely, both in perfect position and unobstructed. Yet both umpires totally *smile* up the call, not a mistake. Pathetic incompetence would be closer to the mark.Sort of the whole point of what I said was that the second one was an error. Of course it was an error, and like a lot of errors it came in an unusual situation and because the umpires are human and not robots they missed it.
And as usual the response to it is completely out of proportion, uneducated and unreasonable.
How many decisions did they get right last night? But no let's focus on a mistake.
Why didn't they review it? Because the reviews don't look at free kick decisions, just if it was a goal or a point. As usual people go off half-cocked without knowing the rules.
So what if they made a mistake and it cost a goal. Players do that 30 times a game and most times no one bats an eye lid. It's almost as if making mistakes in the heat of the moment is natural.
And the same morons who bleat on incessantly about this stuff will also fail to see the irony is they are one of the main reasons why we don't have umpires coming through, yet are complaining about the standard getting worse.
Yeah you’ve been under a rock for the past decade. Explains why you’re a PRE newbie!Unaustralian
OMG. This fat biased moron watching the incident on tv got it wrong. I owe TBR a humble apology.I'm trying to understand this logic.
A clear error is made. 2 field umpires + 2 boundary umpires there to see it. Collingwood players disputing it. Discuss. Fix it. If Geelong won last night, this would be a massive issue in the media.
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Yes no matter what the Big Narcissist thinks the field umpire has control over the game in all instances. They overrule goal umpires if they think a mistake has been made (happened in my son’s game a couple of weeks ago and we have seen it in the AFL) so there is no reason they can’t overrule a boundary umpire when a clear mistake has been made such as that debacle last night. Common sense.Aah the Big Noter is back and defending the indefensible.
Mind you, I am impressed by the patronising tone when he claims things like that the field umpire cannot call the ball out of bounds, let's look at the rules as devised and published by the AFL shall we:
Under Duties, section 8.2 it states:
So, yes, the field umpire can call it out of bounds. Learn the rules.
As for the decision, seriously, how complicated can it be when the ball is clearly out of bounds? How many umpires missed it? Ridiculous incompetence.
If this is the standard which is acceptable at the highest level of the game no wonder there are issues. Of course, we can sit back and accept incompetence or we can call for improvement. I choose to call for improvement, some clearly see no problem with gross incompetence.
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