I suspect you're right on the review, but it throws up an unanticipated ambiguity. The review system was meant to eradicate the clanger, it hasn't. I'm not saying it should be expanded, but it really highlights the problems with it.
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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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You realise it is the boundary umpire who calls it out of bounds, not the central umpire? At most he could ask the boundary if he was sure and the other three centrals have nothing to do with it.
When the handball was given the the central called play on, the boundary should have blown his whistle and called out of bounds.
My point is I don't remember anything like that ever happening before, it's a very unusual situation. Yet you expect an umpire, who has more than likely never seen that situation before, to have something unexpected happen in real time and in that split second make the right decision. And yet you claim a 5 year old could get it right. Because we all get things right the very first time obviously.
Surely you must see that your irrational hatred of umpires makes you hopelessly compromised.
Where do you stop that though? That was an error a possession before the goal, what if it was 5 possessions before? or 10?
Are we going to have the review watch the entire passage of play before the goal and look for any missed free kicks?
'The central called play on'.....just shows how stupid they are. Obviously didn't realise 2 players with ball OOB!!!!
Where's the cohesion between these morons!! Tons of time to stop game, discuss, review, explain to Cameron and then throw back in.
This is my point, you don't understand the rules. The central calls play on if the player plays on. It doesn't matter if he is in bounds or not, that's for the boundary umpire to decide.
and that's what has to be fixed!!! Why couldn't the boundary umpire call it back? What's with all the screaming and yelling of supporters in the background??? WAKE UP!!
I’ve umpired, I’ve never been the same since.
I can say I never made a mistake (dunno whether that’s true but I can say it)
After a week of getting self inflicted uppercuts I woke up to myself and decided I’d leave it up to the aliens to blow whistles.
Oh really. And where are you pulling that cliched bit of information from?
It’s the bloody AFL - it’s not a World Cup Final watched by more than 5 billion people around the world.
Football is not a complicated game to umpire - unless of course you approve of the morons in AFL House adding, subtracting rules of the game and complicating the officiating of the game every year. Adding extra umpires that add another level of confusion.
Clearly you are an AFL apologist or a Geelong supporter
Yeah that's a slippery slope argument, and I hear it, but surely having the review to include checking if ball was kicked in the field of play, like they kind of already do when checking if kicked before crossing the goal line, is not that outrageous?
Aah the Big Noter is back and defending the indefensible.
Mind you, I am impressed by the patronising tone when he claims things like that the field umpire cannot call the ball out of bounds, let's look at the rules as devised and published by the AFL shall we:
Under Duties, section 8.2 it states:
So, yes, the field umpire can call it out of bounds. Learn the rules.
As for the decision, seriously, how complicated can it be when the ball is clearly out of bounds? How many umpires missed it? Ridiculous incompetence.
If this is the standard which is acceptable at the highest level of the game no wonder there are issues. Of course, we can sit back and accept incompetence or we can call for improvement. I choose to call for improvement, some clearly see no problem with gross incompetence.
DS
Mind you, I am impressed by the patronising tone when he claims things like that the field umpire cannot call the ball out of bounds, let's look at the rules as devised and published by the AFL shall we:
Under Duties, section 8.2 it states:
So, yes, the field umpire can call it out of bounds. Learn the rules.
As for the decision, seriously, how complicated can it be when the ball is clearly out of bounds? How many umpires missed it? Ridiculous incompetence.
If this is the standard which is acceptable at the highest level of the game no wonder there are issues. Of course, we can sit back and accept incompetence or we can call for improvement. I choose to call for improvement, some clearly see no problem with gross incompetence.
DS
I've seen games & played in games where the field umpire has ruled that the ball was oob. Some of those have actually been in AFL games.
Are you just saying this stuff to try and wind me up or is this what you actually think?
So to get it straight you want the boundary umpire to know he has made a mistake and call it back because the fans are yelling?
I assume you barrack for Collingwood because under that logic they are going to win every game from now until the end of time.
Oh really. And where are you pulling that cliched bit of information from?
It’s the bloody AFL - it’s not a World Cup Final watched by more than 5 billion people around the world.
Football is not a complicated game to umpire - unless of course you approve of the morons in AFL House adding, subtracting rules of the game and complicating the officiating of the game every year. Adding extra umpires that add another level of confusion.
Clearly you are an AFL apologist or a Geelong supporter
Yeah, they only have to have the fitness and athleticism to run 10-15 km and position themselves around a huge field, with 44 players on it, and make decisions on a 360 degree game with a large set of complicated rules containing many points of interpretation.
If you don't think it is amongst the hardest games to umpire you don't know sport.
Nah he is simply an attention seeker.
PRE ‘ s version of Kane Cornes.
I'm trying to understand this logic.
A clear error is made. 2 field umpires + 2 boundary umpires there to see it. Collingwood players disputing it. Discuss. Fix it. If Geelong won last night, this would be a massive issue in the media.
Can always rely on old David Dunning-Kruger to arrive on cue.
Yes, DDK, the umpires officiate the match in line with the rules and if you read the next paragraph, the rules say:
- Unless otherwise determined by the relevant Controlling Body, the duties
of a boundary Umpire shall include without limitation:- (i) judging whether a football is Out of Bounds or Out of Bounds On the Full and signalling to the field Umpire when that has occurred;
So no, a field umpire can't call it out of bounds, it is the boundary umpires job, without limitation.
