Harry said:a second rounder? a top 30 pick? for a 32 year old? while we are in the middle of a serious rebuild?
definately yes.
it doesn't surprise me to see the poll favouring a no vote as most ferals, as desperate as they are to go to games and see the tigers win so they can sing the song and high five each other, just can't see past their nose unfortunately.
Phantom said:As most would know, I generally have pretty firm rules on twilight players.
But there are always exceptions.
One of the most important elements of leadership is the influence that a Leader can have on others, in terms of extra-effort, efficiency & satisfaction.
If I look at other twilighters at Tigerland - Richo, Bowden, Brown, et al - I cannot necessarily say that they have that extra influence on others.
With Cousins, his influence is quite clear.
Cousins, in his current pattern, should continue his onfield leadership role at Tigerland, with a view to continuing it off the field when he retires.
This man has intangible qualities that we cannot afford to lose.
PS. Can't believe how much my view on Cousins has changed over the year.
Disco08 said:For those saying no, would you trade him for any of Ward, Scott Selwood, Pears, Otten, Swift, Zaharakis, Suban or Beams?
WesternTiger said:Would you trade Richo to the dogs for a second round pick?
Tigers of Old said:I would in a heartbeat but I doubt that they'd give it to us.
WesternTiger said:I know you would ToO. It's just disco asked who would give up a second round pick for Richo and I am certain the dogs would.
Cousins offers a lot more leadership to the younger guys than Richo ever has.
WesternTiger said:Would you trade Richo to the dogs for a second round pick?
Tigers of Old said:Can we get two 2nd rounders? ;D
Disco08 said:Yep, if Richo was happy to be traded.
You quoted my question and answered it with a question BTW. Poor form. ;D
Disco08 said:For what, another year? If we're going to have any future at all leadership has to come from the likes of Deledio, Cotchin, Tambling, Riewoldt and co. They've had a year to learn from Cousins. How much more do they need?
Tigerbob said:I would definitely NOT trade Ben Cousins for anything.
His value as I said to a few on here when we first got him will be the things we inherit from him long after he has gone.
He still has so much to impart that we cannot get from anywhere else.
Also this story of his will be looked back in history as something special, I am glad this club will be a major part of that.
I think we can get three more good years from Ben Cousins. But Ben Cousins legacy will be around for a long, long time.
Tigers of Old said:Exactly.
What happens when Ben's not there to hold their hand in a year or so?
NoDisco08 said:That's not the point at all. Is anyone going to offer a second rounder for Richo?
Phantom said:As most would know, I generally have pretty firm rules on twilight players.
But there are always exceptions.
One of the most important elements of leadership is the influence that a Leader can have on others, in terms of extra-effort, efficiency & satisfaction.
If I look at other twilighters at Tigerland - Richo, Bowden, Brown, et al - I cannot necessarily say that they have that extra influence on others.
With Cousins, his influence is quite clear.
Cousins, in his current pattern, should continue his onfield leadership role at Tigerland, with a view to continuing it off the field when he retires.
This man has intangible qualities that we cannot afford to lose.
PS. Can't believe how much my view on Cousins has changed over the year.