rosy23 said:
I've seen enough misinterpreting others' words here to last a lifetime. If you show me the comments I'll see if I have an opinion. I don't know who or what you're referring to and I don't know the context so I don't feel able to answer your question sorry. Why do you ask me that when it's not a discussion I've been involved in anyway? If I had an opinion I wanted to share I probably would have responded when/if I read the comments.
Never mind Rosy. I thought if you were going to post throughout the thread and present a case you were a part of the overall discussion and following it. I'm not going to go through umpteen pages and find reference points to bring you up to speed if you are not. I was merely interested in your opinion, I don't want to have to work for it at this time of night. ;D
rosy23 said:
I have commented on past claims about Wallace coming to the club and I have commented on claims about Cousins legacy at the club in the future. I don't agree they're apples and oranges. They are both speculative in regard to what people think will happen rather than concrete evidence.
Disagree with you. It's easy to say you can't predict the future. I'm sure we are all aware of this. However, the difference between speculating on a coach who hasn't even arrived at the club yet, and the future influence of a player already at the club making an impact, is a very different kettle of fish. We have things we can quantify already that are real and in the past or present tense with Ben. Wallace hadn't even had his first encounter with a possum at time of the quotes you have referred to of others.
Go and talk to players and coaches and find out the affect Cousins has had on them and there training, preparation, match day approach etc. Then tell me if you seriously think they will not retain that just because he has left the club. In exceptional cases you get athletes who cannot learn from elite mentors, however they are few and uncommon compared to the multitude who do.
I don't understand how people think Cousins influence will be lost on the players magically once he is gone. It's like saying once your business mentor, friend or relative you learned a lot from ceases to have any influence on you after they die. I'm trying to understand the logic behind people questioning his future influence.
These players are talking work ethic, fitness and conditioning, recovery, preparation, onfield experience tips from Cousins. You don't loose that stuff within a year or two because the player is no longer at the club.
If Cousins gets to do his first full pre-season with the club now he is a true member of the team and the ice is broken so to speak, he will be imparting a wealth of influence into their training, preparation and work ethic. You don't loose that stuff, which is why you have leaders/mentors. To ensure environments conducive to fostering success now AND in the future, not just the present.
People like to go on about our poor drafting and trading, sure, but we have also been poor in leadership and development. Two things Cousins assists greatly with.