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Trading Cousins? - Poll.
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rosy23 said:
rosy23 said:
Outlandish ??
* Most players and Rawlings have publicly stated it and I think Gary March has also.
* Watching him mentor and speak to the boys during games and training says it all.
It's not 100% Cuz, he's not a messiah, but his influence is very important for us NOW.
NOW, NOW, NOW
Liverpool said:
I agree they probably will. In fact I'm sure they've already learnt a lot from him. What I can't understand is how you can be so sure that these things are more important than giving ourselves the chance of picking a quality junior. How good a player would these intangible qualities equate to? Would you trade Cousins for Swan? Pendlebury? Rich?
rosy23 said:
So our players and coach's public comments on Cuz are just 'visions' or 'apparitions' then?
Us supporters watching games of Cuz playing cohesive football with Lids, Chimp etc.. (for the first time) in front of our face are just delusions then?
Disco08 said:
That's right, there's no right or wrong... the only people who are right are those who said we should pick Cousins up in the PSD last year
Basically, the question is similar to "would you give up an okay 8-10 year player for 2-3 years of a champion and all the qaulities he brings to the table".
Sure, the kids will remember most of what they've learnt so far.
But will they still be running that extra yard to lay blocks for each other in 6 years time? They've only been exposed to this type of football for half a season.
We need every player on our list to be doing these hard things, even if it costs us an extra 2nd rounder.
His work rate on the field and at training as an example to the youngsters is worth its weight in gold. Keep him.
rosy23 said:
:cutelaugh Johnson and Sampson....yeah, they were Premiership players.....but nowhere in the league of importance to the team and the club that Cousins was to the Eagles.
While Judd for formally the captain of the team....Cousins was undoubtedly the spiritual leader of that team.
You cannot say the same for Johnson or Sampson.
Disco08 said:
No, no, and no.
If we had some players that had similarly experiences to Cousins....or even if we had been successful in the last few years and still had veteran players playing....then I wouldn't be so adamant about Cousins importance than what I am now.
But this is maybe a once in a career opportunity for our young players to play with one of the modern champions of the game....and not just someone with natural talent...but someone who works his arse off which surely will benefit many of the players we deem as 'elite' or 'star' and maybe they even believe it themselves and then they see how Cousins plays and the likes of Lids probably now think, "*smile*, I have a fair way to go actually."
They've had no benchmark at the club to base themselves against.....now they have.
rosy23 said:
Because if you ask anyone at the club they all point to Cousins. That's the caretaker coach, the CEO, the Football Manager, the President, the Captain and a lot of players. Trent Cotchin has been very vocal in his praise for what Cousins has done to our squad. You only have to say "Ben Cousins" to young Trent and his eyes light up and he is full of praise for him. If you take noticed on gameday's, it's evident in every huddle, at every point in the game, when he runs past say a Deledio and pats him on the bum and says keep pushing, and Deledio can see how hard he is working that he has to chunder because he pushes his body to the limits, he has been simply immense. The intangibles he brings, you cannot teach. He is a once a generation talent and we are lucky to have him.
Talking to a few players they rave about what he has brought and the difference he has made. Everytime. It's fact.
By the pre season, Ben Cousins will be the leader of this football team, not in name, but he will be the one.
No claims in what Cousins has brought has been hypothetical. That's as you say, piffle.
It is FACT.
Tigerbob said:
Spot on Toonman :clap
Plus Lids as well has been glowing off Cuz:
"I never realised how much of a team player Ben was until you witness it first hand," Deledio said.
"I haven’t seen anyone drive as much to help out another teammate as he does and to see his workrate on game-day is phenomenal."
Deledio said Cousins was at his best in the heat of battle and believes his experience will be invaluable in helping a young Richmond side improve next season under a new coach.
"Ben works extremely hard on game-day, he grows another leg," Deledio said.
"He trains really hard and works his behind off in the gym but it’s more game day when you really notice it."
...that says a lot to me as well.
You can tell from that that Lids has learnt something about sacrifice for the team when since he was drafted he has been surrounded by players who play a "selfish" brand of footy....and over the years that rubs off onto young kids and then people wonder why we have a terrible culture.
Nows a good chance for a new generation of Tigers to learn the RIGHT way to play team footy and that has to be a good thing. 8)
WesternTiger said:
Heh Heh I made a mess of that sentence I was trying to say i see no reason for the nonsense people were posting in getting worked up about ToO raising the question. I might not agree with it but some people well and truly got a bit over excited over it.
Hell it was a better question than the usual waffle he posts.... >
