Likewise Hazza, plus we are all fired up arguing over points and pick systems and strategies that we barely understand.not really. Enjoying the suspense.
It's peak PRE if you think about it
Likewise Hazza, plus we are all fired up arguing over points and pick systems and strategies that we barely understand.not really. Enjoying the suspense.
I think it’s your logic that’s way off AA. You don’t seem to be able to separate the Barrass-Hawthorn deal from the WCE-Baker one. They are two totally different deals.Your logic is wack here redders. The deal for 14/bakes was never done.
Let's say somehow we did a deal for Bakes/18. That's what the market paid. Does that override the "market precedent" of Bakes=14?
Barass for 14 was mooted, didnt happen. But by your logic, Barass is now worth 14 as there was a "market precedent" for that as well, even though it didnt happen.
Weird, weird logic Redford.
It is every year, the AFL loves to drag everything out so nothing else gets any media timeGoing to be a long three days.
beats workLikewise Hazza, plus we are all fired up arguing over points and pick systems and strategies that we barely understand.
It's peak PRE if you think about it
a day feels 72hrs long. I wish it was 3 days only as it's becoming like torture to me.not really. Enjoying the suspense.
Why don't you kill some time by sharing your thoughts on our pick swap with the Lions??a day feels 72hrs long. I wish it was 3 days only as it's becoming like torture to me.
There's an internal call coming through for you Harry.beats work
Done to death. lol yeah though, but that's happened nearly on every major topic in here . Probably why it's become tiresome to some of us.Why don't you kill some time by sharing your thoughts on our pick swap with the Lions??
Agree, great little player, versatile but already felt he was in decline towards the end of the year, less than 16 disposals in the last 8 games. Maybe his contract situation was playing on his mind. Pick 14 to me was a good deal. Really not sure how WC do this now. Freo makes it interesting but I guess that depends on Baker.As always we massively overrate our own players. Bakes is a tough little bastard with great spirit, can play anywhere, reasonable skills, can kick a goal and that is worth a lot.
He's not elite - at his peak now but will be in decline.
Yes alot of hallway sprinting is done late Wednesday.So, are the big trades not going to be announced until just before the deadline on Wednesday night?
I don't think our last 8 rounds would reflect well on any of our players - except Mansell and Banks.Agree, great little player, versatile but already felt he was in decline towards the end of the year, less than 16 disposals in the last 8 games. Maybe his contract situation was playing on his mind. Pick 14 to me was a good deal. Really not sure how WC do this now. Freo makes it interesting but I guess that depends on Baker.
Imagine the media melts if this happens.If Freo convinces Bakes to go there I'm accepting 10, 11, 18 and 30 for Shai and Bakes.
I just thought watching Baker that he was very flat this year. Didn't seem his cheery self which is why I said contract situation might have been playing on his mind. I personally don't consider him a great mid, he played mid stints more out of necessity this year, to me his best position was always half back flank which suits WC better. Don't get too many of those going for high first round draft picks. Rioli is an exception as a HBF, I consider him elite and a real asset to any team contending for a premiership. Pick 14 to 18 is acceptable for Baker imo. Can't really see us getting any more for him.I don't think our last 8 rounds would reflect well on any of our players - except Mansell and Banks.
Baker is a goal a game 20 disposal half forward/change mid. He should have pretty good value.
14 appears to be the accepted value- primarily because that's what everyone thought the WEagles would have to trade.
Next years first round pick or 2ndAgree, great little player, versatile but already felt he was in decline towards the end of the year, less than 16 disposals in the last 8 games. Maybe his contract situation was playing on his mind. Pick 14 to me was a good deal. Really not sure how WC do this now. Freo makes it interesting but I guess that depends on Baker.
How do we even know that it would have been a straight swap Baker for 14? Pick 14 might have been the basis for the deal, but WC may have wanted something else back in another pick or an upgrade of pick. We'll never really knowYou don't have to worry about how we rate or don't rate him. You only have to worry about what the market says.
And to that end, 14 as a precedence has been set by another club. To move back from that - particularly 4 spots - is accepting unders.