Tiger troy Taylor

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Pretty sure Tommy means character and behavioural standards.

Cheers Disco. Like ToO said, in the end it backfires. On a side note, does anyone know if the club is still paying TTs salary while he is MIA?

 

[Baloo]

Pretty sure Tommy means character and behavioural standards.

I guess, but character comes into it too. You need to know who you can bake publically and who needs a behind closed doors gently gently approach.

 

[tigerhalsey]

If the answer is no the money should be put into Fighting Tiger Fund

 

[Giardiasis]

If the answer is no the money should be put into Fighting Tiger Fund

That'd be like a cancer sufferer donating money to a charity fund set up for their own personal treatment.

 

[Phar Ace]

But it already does. Players start pre-season at different times. DIfferent players have different training loads.

If you want to maximise the return of each player, you need to work out what works best for them and if it's possible, accomodate those individual needs.

Treating every player the same way is just working to an average at best, the lowest common denominator at worst. We don't want to be average.

Good Post BigBear. Whilst I know they are still people, you have to also look at players like assets and manage the asset to give the best return for the club and the team. Sure, there are team rules, but that's why humans have brains (unlike a computer), whereby an exteme situation can be adjusted to maximise the potential return.

Given how many Rookies are possible, I would rookie list him next season provided he doesn't breach parole and spiral out of control. All clubs saw and believed in his talent, most were wary of his circumstances. If we can manage his circumstances, challenge him within his framework of maturity for a year or two, a successful outcome could be just the filip the club and indigineous kids need. It could be recognised and groundbreaking in the years to come. It could all come to nought too - but on his talent base - it's worth extra effort.

 

[Lidsand]

seeing as trade period period is before TT's contract expired i would hope that collingwood accommodate us in some way or risk losing him to another team in the nd or psd

 

[Barnzy]

But it already does. Players start pre-season at different times. DIfferent players have different training loads.

If you want to maximise the return of each player, you need to work out what works best for them and if it's possible, accomodate those individual needs.

Treating every player the same way is just working to an average at best, the lowest common denominator at worst. We don't want to be average.

Players start their preseason at different times because of injuries/niggles or different programs because the body at different ages needs different workloads.

I don't see how that's even comparable to basically allowing a player to do what he wants - run away a couple of times and not informing the club, etc. Sure, you don't treat everyone exactly the same but that's not acceptable.

 

[Phar Ace]

Players start their preseason at different times because of injuries/niggles or different programs because the body at different ages needs different workloads.

I don't see how that's even comparable to basically allowing a player to do what he wants - run away a couple of times and not informing the club, etc. Sure, you don't treat everyone exactly the same but that's not acceptable.

On that basis Barnzy, as parents we'd all be childless pretty quickly.............. Any parent out there who has been through the teenage years will be nodding right now with some empathy.

 

[Elmer]

On that basis Barnzy, as parents we'd all be childless pretty quickly.............. Any parent out there who has been through the teenage years will be nodding right now with some empathy.

Not sure how that analogy applies? You don't recruit your children based on potential 'family' impact or performance, unless of course you are Tom Cruise.

 

[Skills]

Why are we postulating so many theories for what may or may not happen to Troy Taylor?
The simple answer is, he doesn't want to play at Richmond...it's not about an AFL career.

 

[Sintiger]

Why are we postulating so many theories for what may or may not happen to Troy Taylor?
The simple answer is, he doesn't want to play at Richmond...it's not about an AFL career.

We don't even know that . We know he doesn't want to play or cannot play at the moment.
Noone here knows anything about the reasons he is not at the Club now which is why the only thing we can really do is wait .
I am not willing to have an opinion on whether he should stay or go , because I have no idea what the facts are .

 

[Phar Ace]

Not sure how that analogy applies? You don't recruit your children based on potential 'family' impact or performance, unless of course you are Tom Cruise.

Wasn't about recruitment Mr Fudd, was about treatment. Troy is a teenager, or at least still acting like one, and if we just treat them based soley on their actions, we'd never have any. Events like running away and not telling people things are unremarkable really when considering the person, age, known and possible circumstances.

Time can be a great healer.

 

[tigerdave]

So i gather he can't play wherever he's gone too...

 

[GoodOne]

Wasn't about recruitment Mr Fudd, was about treatment. Troy is a teenager, or at least still acting like one, and if we just treat them based soley on their actions, we'd never have any. Events like running away and not telling people things are unremarkable really when considering the person, age, known and possible circumstances.

Time can be a great healer.

Hopefully in time he can become a great politician or scientific genius or whatever he puts his mind to. Unfortunately to become an AFL player, you have to take your oipportunity at a very young age or your opportunity slips by. Statistically Taylor's chances of making it from here are very slim. The Tigers should not put more effort into Taylor, or give leeway that others are not afforded, to the detriment of other youngsters. I am all for treating everyone individually but a line has to be drawn somewhere otherwise the very fabric that makes a club successful, trust and committment to each other, is lost.

 

[Baloo]

The Tigers should not put more effort into Taylor, or give leeway that others are not afforded, to the detriment of other youngsters.

Agree with the bolded bit completely. Anything RFC did that was above and beyond what it normally does shouldn't be to anyones detriment.

 

[Phar Ace]

Hopefully in time he can become a great politician or scientific genius or whatever he puts his mind to. Unfortunately to become an AFL player, you have to take your oipportunity at a very young age or your opportunity slips by. Statistically Taylor's chances of making it from here are very slim. The Tigers should not put more effort into Taylor, or give leeway that others are not afforded, to the detriment of other youngsters. I am all for treating everyone individually but a line has to be drawn somewhere otherwise the very fabric that makes a club successful, trust and committment to each other, is lost.

Goody, goody, goody, think you might be drawing a long bow on the politician or science genius thing (but I enjoy your optimism ;D ).

But i do think there has been a paradigm shift in recruiting objectives in recent years whereby it might actually be OK to put someone on your list that has quite specific needs in the belief that a win-win situation could be reached. Watts at Melbourne is the most obvious, but I'm sure there are other less visible players being allowed certain timeframes that others are not - it would and should be on a case by case basis if the perception is there that talent is worth the accommodation.

As the lists expand, and they surely will with specialised VFL sides, expect a few more project players.

 

[theglove3]

So with all the indigenous lads gone I ask what are they going to to with the new indigenous centre? Have all the other clubs indigenous players use it? Surely not.

If it was designed to help these kids find their feet with footy, living interstate and away from home and all the other benefits from it then I think it is safe to say it has been a failure of (in Dimma speak) Biblical proportions!

Any thoughts?

 

[martyshire]

So with all the indigenous lads gone I ask what are they going to to with the new indigenous centre? Have all the other clubs indigenous players use it? Surely not.

If it was designed to help these kids find their feet with footy, living interstate and away from home and all the other benefits from it then I think it is safe to say it has been a failure of (in Dimma speak) Biblical proportions!

Any thoughts?

My understanding was it was for indigenous people in the broader community, not just the 3 or 4 that were on our list. I might be wrong but that's what I assumed, given the government chipped in for it.

Still, it's a shame we don't have the role models present at the club anymore...

 

[tigertim]

So with all the indigenous lads gone I ask what are they going to to with the new indigenous centre? Have all the other clubs indigenous players use it? Surely not.

If it was designed to help these kids find their feet with footy, living interstate and away from home and all the other benefits from it then I think it is safe to say it has been a failure of (in Dimma speak) Biblical proportions!

Any thoughts?

My guess would be that, strangely enough, the club will draft an Indig player come November ( by hook or by crook!)

 

[Baloo]

I am under the impression that we don't have much to do with the indigenous centre. It's not football related in any way other then being housed at the greatest footy ground in the world.