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Tiger troy Taylor

Those talking about a media beat up have missed a couple of significant points raised by the story itself.

I have no idea what the truth is in this matter, but a couple of things make me wonder;

There would appear to have been no police intervention on the night, no one was charged, no Police media release, etc

How or why did this story make news from Alice springs, no one was or has been yet charged, no court appearances. Somebody has leaked the story or sought to have it played up in the media, for what reason. If this was a typical new years eve incident where a couple of people are thrown out of a party, it would never see the light of day.

Appears some people were happy to be named as victims, I wonder if they got paid, or wanted a certain story our their to cover their own actions. ie the article talks about Victim A grabbing Troy by the shirt. Was the alleged strike before or after he was grabbed. He stated he asked Troy to leave. I wonder how that request was put. "Please leave this is a private party" or "Get out of here you %^%^&& ^%^^&*" If a request was made like that at the same time as being grabbed you could understand anyone lashing out, whether it be out of fear or an attempt to defend themselves.

If, as stated in some articles, Troy is on Parole, and there was some substance to these allegations about his involvement in the incident then I suspect he would not have been allowed to return to Melbourne until the investigation was completed, or worse his bail would have been revoked by now.

I have no idea who has done what, or what version of events Troy might have, but apart from the fact that he is a newly listed AFL player, I can't help but wonder why the story has got out. Its not like the blues boys who were mucking up yet again at the Casino, where the story is bound to leak from. It doesn't involve any high profile players, just a little known kid, with a bit of a reputation for trouble.

What motivated whoever leaked the story to go to the media in the first place, Money, revenge, provide an alibi who knows. Why haven't the Police taken action to get him back to the Territory if he is likely to be charged.

A lot of what ifs, buts and maybe's but it raised more questions than it answers.

I for one hope the kid has done nothing wrong in this case and he can make a go of it as an AFL footballer. I guess time will tell.

Does the author of the article has some particular interests in this matter. who knows. I don't think anyone, other than those involved, know at this point. But lets not speculate.
 
rosy23 said:
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Edit...I thought I'd read Troy was on parole but can't find it in a search so am probably wrong there.

It is my understanding he at least was on parole which usually contains good behaviour conditions. If he still is bound by those conditions, then maybe being charged with another violent crime results in an automatic return to the cells to serve out his full sentence from the original crime.

If he is charged and subsequently found guilty, given his record I serious doubt he will be available for most of the 2010 season if the club are silly enough to retain him (having clearly breached his AFL contract).
 
the main thing that stands out the most in this very strange situation for me is that its now been 8 days & no charges have been laid by police
this is not a murder or rape case where police need to investigate for weeks/months and dont really think that the police up there have so much crime or situations where they are too busy and dont have the recources to commit to the case if it was as serious as some have made out.

im 44 yold and my past experience albeit in victoria is if it was as being made out the police would of finished their investigations in 2-3 days and charged him.

something is really strange about this.
 
Turk, if TT is back down in Melb for training (as someone on here said he was), that would naturally slow investigations up don't you think?
 
im sure if the alice cops wanted to interview tt, the richmond football club would not hesitate to put him on the next plane out & could be back the same day.
people travel to and from all parts of australia on a daily basis & im sure the alice cops would not let that get in their way of ivestigation & if it was as serious as some here have made out he would be there already and wouldnt be allowed to come back just for football training that would be the last concern the cops would worry about.
 
IanG said:
How is it different? especially considering we haven't heard the full story yet.

LMAO at you calling other posters hypocrites just when you've been found out for the same thing yourself.
oh deary me the defender of all things troy.

so you think it okay he gate crash a party make nuisance of himself refuse to leave when asked and then belt 3 blokes. hes exactly the type masten and langdon belted and rightly so.
 
the claw said:
oh deary me the defender of all things troy.

so you think it okay he gate crash a party make nuisance of himself refuse to leave when asked and then belt 3 blokes. hes exactly the type masten and langdon belted and rightly so.

claw maybe that is what happened. or maybe, just maybe, the 'victim' is giving his version, and the truth is a little different. do you think that is a possibility?
 
Brodders17 said:
claw maybe that is what happened. or maybe, just maybe, the 'victim' is giving his version, and the truth is a little different. do you think that is a possibility?


no, brodders, as usual claw is right. claw knows he is guilty. ;)
 
Brodders17 said:
claw maybe that is what happened. or maybe, just maybe, the 'victim' is giving his version, and the truth is a little different. do you think that is a possibility?
anything is possible 17. look ive stated already im not to fussed he got into a blue young men do. ive stated why ive got into the debate but if people want to ignore those reasons who am i to try and reason with them. people sure are defending hard i can just see the double standards if it was a collingwood player or carlton,

anyway just putting aside who may or may not have started the fight. what a silly thing for someone on parole who is in the spotlight to go out and get pissed and put himself in that situation.

not a bright puppy is our troy and you have to ask has he the mental toughness aptitude and discipline in him to succeed at afl. the very things that were questioned when he was drafted. the very thinggs that were argued that made him just as much a risk or even bigger risk as perhaps taking another with less skill. a lot of the debate by some was we took the kids who have the best chance or less risk im still trying to get my head around that.
 
snaps truly said:
no, brodders, as usual claw is right. claw knows he is guilty. ;)
well lets hope claw is wrong on this one eh. unfortunately claw is rarely wrong.

now wheres that ditty got to? oh yeah!!! ohhhh its hard to be humble when
 
turk-d-tiger said:
im sure if the alice cops wanted to interview tt, the richmond football club would not hesitate to put him on the next plane out & could be back the same day.
people travel to and from all parts of australia on a daily basis & im sure the alice cops would not let that get in their way of ivestigation & if it was as serious as some here have made out he would be there already and wouldnt be allowed to come back just for football training that would be the last concern the cops would worry about.

Sure, all of that, but sometimes it still slows things down, ie it can't be do be straight away and remains a tomorrow job/task. Sounds like a lot people might need interviewing, all with their own perculiar delay factors.

To assume there maybe nothing in it because it has taken time is about as appropriate as saying he has priors so where there is smoke there is a fire.
 
Phar Ace said:
To assume there maybe nothing in it because it has taken time is about as appropriate as saying he has priors so where there is smoke there is a fire.

Agree. I don't see too many people claiming his innocence. Most are either hopeful it's a beat up (or not as the case may be) or prefer to sit back and wait until there is a statement from the boys in blue.

Claiming we are a lot quicker to proclaim Carlton players guilty before we proclaim our own, well FFS, they are Carlton players and we're Richmond supporters. It's expected of us.
 
the claw said:
ill take that.

LOL I know where you are coming from, but from your recent coments it seems you have already judged him. From what I have read most here are waiting for more info on the matter before making minds up. Just because some posters are ''defending'' him, doesn't mean you have to find him guilty.
 
Baloo said:
Claiming we are a lot quicker to proclaim Carlton players guilty before we proclaim our own, well FFS, they are Carlton players and we're Richmond supporters. It's expected of us.

Agree Bigbear, wish I could be as sure of winning lotto 8)
 
I don't wanna come across all grim and judgemental either. But generally, where there's smoke there's fire. I think we need to strongly address this young bloke's behaviour and choices - or we're gonna pay for it. Everybody needs to know where the boundaries are ... especially troubled teenagers.

Good luck to Troy and the club with the large task ahead.
 
snaps truly said:
LOL I know where you are coming from, but from your recent coments it seems you have already judged him. From what I have read most here are waiting for more info on the matter before making minds up. Just because some posters are ''defending'' him, doesn't mean you have to find him guilty.
na just giving the opposing view to most. i like to be different.