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Don’t forget to tell them to lock their cats and dogs up.
That was the best yet
nbc, can, cbc, abc, sexy, mnsnbc and all the other lefty media hooked into like….well Haitians munching on someone’s pet 
Trump and Vance too busy pissing themselves laughing as were everyone else. Except the old TDS folk.
How come more Latino, Hispanic and Black men, amongst others voted for Trump than before?
Hmm who is his Chief of Staff? Susie Wiles..let’s see who else he appoints to cabinet, Secretaries, Ambassadors etc.
We’ve all heard it before. Yesterdays news.
Which rights have they lost?
Hopefully not abortion rights…Every State had their own laws on abortion. Even before Roe vs Wade was dropped.
But that doesn’t attract headlines and people just go off their own version of truthful news. It’s a pity people can’t learn to do some research for themselves.
Was he found guilty of violence against a government after an election?
Oh like “defund the police”
What has he changed there?
A lot of hearsay, lies and innuendo repeated.
And even if we’re all true.. it really is indicative of how bad Biden/Harris/Obama/Clintons administration was. A total landslide against them, but it’s all about Trump
Maybe if Biden/Harris served the people and the Democrats looked after the working class, then had a candidate that could talk and walk at the same time, the result may have been different….nah the Dems were a disaster.
But make sure you keep bringing up Trump. It’s saves people holding the incumbents culpable.
Fantastic job they did, it was just the 74,000,000 uneducated voters who never went to college, it was their fault .
Fortunately the 71,000,000 highly educated college alumni (htf did they fit them all in to colleges) and those marvellous very high iq celebrities like CardiB, Beyoncé, JLo, MnM, Bobby DeNiro, Georgie Clooney, PDiddy and his party goers, The View molls etc all know the ins and outs of everything that they achieved. Which wouldn’t be hard because it was F.A.
But no doubt those celebrities that got trotted out every night know about the cost of living, real wages and the struggle millions were experiencing…hold on..shock horror, no they didn’t, they’re all multimillionaires living in their bubble.
But that’s Trumps fault too, no doubt.
Reading Wa's Sunday Times yesterday, it said that 50 years ago Perth home loan repayments were 32% of the average wage. Now the average loan repayments are 68% of the average wage.
Yesterdays article doesn't lay blame as to why housing is unaffordable for our younger generation. But who and what is to blame.
I've been banging on about the First Home Owners Scheme/First Home Buyers Grant for years. John Howard introduced it, patted himself on the back and then proceeded to stop building social housing.
All the First Home Buyers Grant did was put more people in the market, and with the amount of social housing being built slashed......the rest is history.
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Yesterdays article doesn't lay blame as to why housing is unaffordable for our younger generation. But who and what is to blame.
I've been banging on about the First Home Owners Scheme/First Home Buyers Grant for years. John Howard introduced it, patted himself on the back and then proceeded to stop building social housing.
All the First Home Buyers Grant did was put more people in the market, and with the amount of social housing being built slashed......the rest is history.
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I don’t mean to be sexist but clearly labor supply is one issue that would lead to lower real wages on average.
Net immigration vs new dwelling construction another issue.
Construction costs also increased materially with supply side challenges.
Building costs 37pc higher than four years ago
The cost of building a home is surging, threatening the Albanese government’s efforts to build 1.2 million new dwellings.
All leads to very high prices relative to wages without some kind of demand destruction or labor supply / demand imbalance weighted towards labor.
Holy *smile*! This bloke is from the same Island as me in Mauritius! Population is only 35k. I'm embarrassed.
It's not all Howard's fault, i do enjoy putting the boots into him though.I don’t mean to be sexist but clearly labor supply is one issue that would lead to lower real wages on average.
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Construction costs also increased materially with supply side challenges.
Building costs 37pc higher than four years ago
The cost of building a home is surging, threatening the Albanese government’s efforts to build 1.2 million new dwellings.www.afr.com
All leads to very high prices relative to wages without some kind of demand destruction or labor supply / demand imbalance weighted towards labor.
So nothing to prosecute now eh?
US news
Judge pauses Trump proceedings as special counsel seeks to wind up case
Jack Smith is ending his prosecution of Trump over efforts to overturn 2020 election and classified documents retention
US elections 2024 – live updates
05:45 AEDT Saturday, 09 November 2024
The federal judge overseeing Donald Trump’s criminal case over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election agreed to pause all proceedings in the prosecution on Friday, as special counsel prosecutors prepared to shut down the case following Trump’s election victory.
What a mob of dumkopfs. What they mean is they tried to get rid of Trump prior to the election. Now he is POTUS Presumptive they failed. Timing timing timing.
In a brief, one-page filing, prosecutors asked the presiding US district judge, Tanya Chutkan, to “vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrial schedule to afford the government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determine the appropriate course going forward”.
E minus. Not even a point for trying.
Prosecutors in the office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, also told the judge that they would publicly announce how they would wind down the case by 2 December 2024, in what is understood to be an effort to withdraw the charges before Trump takes office in January.
Silly Billie’s, they should have started the prosecution years earlier. Before he announced his nomination to contest the election. I wonder why they didn’t?
The filing marks the start of the process to shut down the two criminal cases that federal prosecutors brought against Trump, over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and his retention of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago club after he left the White House.
So are they going to run out of time to prosecute this case? It makes you wonder why they didn’t start the prosecutions case against Trump during the past few years, instead of leaving it until August 2023 to start proceedings.
Once Trump returns to the presidency, prosecutors would be barred from continuing any criminal actions against him because of internal justice department policy prohibiting the prosecution of a sitting president, making any further attempts to bring the case meaningless.
So if they were fair dinkum, they could have prosecuted him at anytime over the last 3 years or so. But waited until 15 months ago. No wonder they got the arse if this is how they deal out “justice” Either the case or the timing. Poor old Jack Smith was handed a lemon
The justice department is still examining how to wind down the cases, which are in different stages and are complicated. In particular, the department does not want the classified documents case, which was dismissed and currently under appeal, to go unchallenged.
Give it up. Barry Obama still has classified documents, Hilary Clinton, Old Joe Biden. But none prosecuted. Send in Ethan Hunt and find them all. Then prosecute them.
Failure to pursue an appeal over the dismissal of the classified documents case on grounds that the special counsel himself was illegally appointed could set a problematic precedent and hamper the department’s ability to use special counsels in the future.
The Special Prosecutor was “illegally appointed” well well well.
Trump launched his presidential campaign in 2022 under the cloud of an impending special counsel investigation. That investigation examined Trump’s retention of national security materials at his Mar-a-Lago club after he lost the 2020 presidential election.
But Old Joe was just too old to prosecute, but ok to be POTUS? Ok
He repeatedly told supporters at rallies and in public statements that he was running for his literal freedom, urging voters to return him to the presidency in part because the charges would only disappear if he were re-elected.
And they did and they will. I hope all those DOJ decision makers are held accountable. Plus those that directed the DOJ to mount prosecutions. Once Trump was running again.
For the best part of two years, Trump’s overarching legal strategy was to delay the criminal cases until after Tuesday’s election. His hope was that if he won, he could appoint a loyalist attorney general who would simply drop the prosecutions.
They will be dropped regardless. The DOJ is shitting itself. Prosecute anyone who weaponised the judicial system for their own benefit. No doubt if it’s all above board, there will be a paper trail. Then follow the money to see who got paid off.
He was unsuccessful in delaying his New York criminal case tied to his efforts to influence the outcome of the 2016 election through an unlawful hush-money scheme, which resulted in his conviction on 34 felony counts. But his conviction barely moved the political needle. Trump is scheduled to be sentenced in that case on 26 November.
I thought it was because he allegedly embellished the size of his property assets. No doubt that will get dismissed on Appeal as well.
The next time I go to the bank for a loan, I’ll tell them my house sits on a thousand acres of land. I’m sure they won’t send anyone to check my figures. No bank does that right?
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If this was the best Biden/Harris/Obama/HClinton/Pelosi and the Rest of the Democrat Party leadership could do, it’s no wonder they totally miscalculated the voice of the American people.
To leave all these prosecutions so late in the day, when they knew Trump was running for President speaks volumes for their ability as a collective. Otherwise they would have directed the DOJ and State prosecutors to commence proceedings against Trump back in 2020.
But no, they were all too busy raking in money and lining their own pockets. Then it hit them. Too late you plonkers.
The poor old everyday family didn’t stand a chance with this mob.
Great economic managers. Kamala had a war chest of over a $billion. She outspent Trump by at least twice as much if not more.
Now the Dems are over $20 million in the red.
Kamala spent over $1million to Oprah, $100k redecorating a hotel room for the “Call Me Daddy” podcast. Other celebrities paid off, singers/shows apparently upwards of $100k each.
So from over a $billion in the bank to $20 million in the red. Oh my lord.
US news
Judge pauses Trump proceedings as special counsel seeks to wind up case
Jack Smith is ending his prosecution of Trump over efforts to overturn 2020 election and classified documents retention
US elections 2024 – live updates
05:45 AEDT Saturday, 09 November 2024
The federal judge overseeing Donald Trump’s criminal case over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election agreed to pause all proceedings in the prosecution on Friday, as special counsel prosecutors prepared to shut down the case following Trump’s election victory.
What a mob of dumkopfs. What they mean is they tried to get rid of Trump prior to the election. Now he is POTUS Presumptive they failed. Timing timing timing.
In a brief, one-page filing, prosecutors asked the presiding US district judge, Tanya Chutkan, to “vacate the remaining deadlines in the pretrial schedule to afford the government time to assess this unprecedented circumstance and determine the appropriate course going forward”.
E minus. Not even a point for trying.
Prosecutors in the office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, also told the judge that they would publicly announce how they would wind down the case by 2 December 2024, in what is understood to be an effort to withdraw the charges before Trump takes office in January.
Silly Billie’s, they should have started the prosecution years earlier. Before he announced his nomination to contest the election. I wonder why they didn’t?
The filing marks the start of the process to shut down the two criminal cases that federal prosecutors brought against Trump, over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and his retention of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago club after he left the White House.
So are they going to run out of time to prosecute this case? It makes you wonder why they didn’t start the prosecutions case against Trump during the past few years, instead of leaving it until August 2023 to start proceedings.
Once Trump returns to the presidency, prosecutors would be barred from continuing any criminal actions against him because of internal justice department policy prohibiting the prosecution of a sitting president, making any further attempts to bring the case meaningless.
So if they were fair dinkum, they could have prosecuted him at anytime over the last 3 years or so. But waited until 15 months ago. No wonder they got the arse if this is how they deal out “justice” Either the case or the timing. Poor old Jack Smith was handed a lemon
The justice department is still examining how to wind down the cases, which are in different stages and are complicated. In particular, the department does not want the classified documents case, which was dismissed and currently under appeal, to go unchallenged.
Give it up. Barry Obama still has classified documents, Hilary Clinton, Old Joe Biden. But none prosecuted. Send in Ethan Hunt and find them all. Then prosecute them.
Failure to pursue an appeal over the dismissal of the classified documents case on grounds that the special counsel himself was illegally appointed could set a problematic precedent and hamper the department’s ability to use special counsels in the future.
The Special Prosecutor was “illegally appointed” well well well.
Trump launched his presidential campaign in 2022 under the cloud of an impending special counsel investigation. That investigation examined Trump’s retention of national security materials at his Mar-a-Lago club after he lost the 2020 presidential election.
But Old Joe was just too old to prosecute, but ok to be POTUS? Ok
He repeatedly told supporters at rallies and in public statements that he was running for his literal freedom, urging voters to return him to the presidency in part because the charges would only disappear if he were re-elected.
And they did and they will. I hope all those DOJ decision makers are held accountable. Plus those that directed the DOJ to mount prosecutions. Once Trump was running again.
For the best part of two years, Trump’s overarching legal strategy was to delay the criminal cases until after Tuesday’s election. His hope was that if he won, he could appoint a loyalist attorney general who would simply drop the prosecutions.
They will be dropped regardless. The DOJ is shitting itself. Prosecute anyone who weaponised the judicial system for their own benefit. No doubt if it’s all above board, there will be a paper trail. Then follow the money to see who got paid off.
He was unsuccessful in delaying his New York criminal case tied to his efforts to influence the outcome of the 2016 election through an unlawful hush-money scheme, which resulted in his conviction on 34 felony counts. But his conviction barely moved the political needle. Trump is scheduled to be sentenced in that case on 26 November.
I thought it was because he allegedly embellished the size of his property assets. No doubt that will get dismissed on Appeal as well.
The next time I go to the bank for a loan, I’ll tell them my house sits on a thousand acres of land. I’m sure they won’t send anyone to check my figures. No bank does that right?
Judge pauses Trump proceedings as special counsel seeks to wind up case — Guardian Australia
Jack Smith is ending his prosecution of Trump over efforts to overturn 2020 election and classified documents retention
If this was the best Biden/Harris/Obama/HClinton/Pelosi and the Rest of the Democrat Party leadership could do, it’s no wonder they totally miscalculated the voice of the American people.
To leave all these prosecutions so late in the day, when they knew Trump was running for President speaks volumes for their ability as a collective. Otherwise they would have directed the DOJ and State prosecutors to commence proceedings against Trump back in 2020.
But no, they were all too busy raking in money and lining their own pockets. Then it hit them. Too late you plonkers.
The poor old everyday family didn’t stand a chance with this mob.
Great economic managers. Kamala had a war chest of over a $billion. She outspent Trump by at least twice as much if not more.
Now the Dems are over $20 million in the red.
Kamala spent over $1million to Oprah, $100k redecorating a hotel room for the “Call Me Daddy” podcast. Other celebrities paid off, singers/shows apparently upwards of $100k each.
So from over a $billion in the bank to $20 million in the red. Oh my lord.
Billion-Dollar Bust: Kamala’s Campaign Drowns in Debt After…
Kamala Harris's campaign ended with at least $20 million in debt, per two sources familiar. Harris raised over $1 billion and had $118 million in the bank as…
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No it’s not. What a *smile* poor defence and accusation.
One person’s quote or actions, it’s not a generalisation of everyone else.
You forgot to mention..Trumps fault
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Well, he is a god damn real estate agent.
Apologies to any of PRE's finest who are in the real estate game.
I wonder if in the US there are generational loyalties/ prejudices in which way family members vote, similar to in Australia.
Many generations (not all) vote along party lines. Da and mu, grandparents, great grandparents maybe, all voted the same party as a family “tradition” .
Ie a lot who identified as a common blue collar worker, he and his family would generally vote for Labour (now Labor) regardlesss of who their local member was or how the member represented them in Parliament. They mightn’t even know much about them, as long as he was a “good Labour man” (usually men back in the day) times have changed with many women encouraged to run.
A couple of questions…
How many people would vote for a local candidate that will represent them better or a main party candidate ie Labor/Coalition knowing the candidate is a Party adherent rather than the electorate.
Which is the more important consideration?
1. The Party’s candidate regardless of who he/she is? It’s the Party first and foremost, not so much about the candidate. As long as your Party gets into power.
Or
2. It’s the local candidate first and foremost, if your Party doesn’t get into power too bad, your candidate is more important?
Many generations (not all) vote along party lines. Da and mu, grandparents, great grandparents maybe, all voted the same party as a family “tradition” .
Ie a lot who identified as a common blue collar worker, he and his family would generally vote for Labour (now Labor) regardlesss of who their local member was or how the member represented them in Parliament. They mightn’t even know much about them, as long as he was a “good Labour man” (usually men back in the day) times have changed with many women encouraged to run.
A couple of questions…
How many people would vote for a local candidate that will represent them better or a main party candidate ie Labor/Coalition knowing the candidate is a Party adherent rather than the electorate.
Which is the more important consideration?
1. The Party’s candidate regardless of who he/she is? It’s the Party first and foremost, not so much about the candidate. As long as your Party gets into power.
Or
2. It’s the local candidate first and foremost, if your Party doesn’t get into power too bad, your candidate is more important?
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Is this serious or are you just trolling?
Yes, many states had their own abortion laws before the Dodds decision to overturn Roe v Wade. But if those laws contradicted the right for women to control their own bodies and get an abortion as set out in the Roe v Wade decision, then those laws were invalid. It was ignored because it was irrelevant. Do some research, or maybe just stop trolling.
DS
That’s what I stated.
Absolute nonsense. Just about every state had their own laws.
Why would I be trolling when it’s a fact. I replied to a post.
I have already have done some research. Most states have different laws for when a termination could be performed and at which stage of pregnancy. Is that correct?
Maybe before you castigate others, you do your own research. Find out which states had different laws pertaining to this, and this is what I referred to.
Tell me in which state its illegal for a woman not to have an abortion if that’s her choice?
Apart from how far along she is and on medical advice?
So stop bleating about trolls when you couldn’t refute anything I wrote, As usual.
Now who overturned Roe vs Wade? I’m sure it was the Supreme Court wasn’t it? Yes or no will do.
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Keep digging.
If that is the case then why are old laws which were invalid now being dredged up and enforced?
We all know the answer, the answer is that while Roe v Wade was in force laws which restricted abortions in such a way as to contradict Roe v Wade were invalid and therefore irrelevant.
This is why no-one was talking about it, because those laws could not contradict the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v Wade or they would be invalid.
I'm sorry I called you a troll, I just didn't realise you were so dumb as to not realise that.
DS
Do those State Laws exist? Yes or no? If you answer “no” that proves how much you know.
No obviously you don’t know the answer at all. State Law was still enforced where the time of termination differed from state to state
You’d better read up again. That’s why Roe vs Wade was overturned. States have the right to vote in any Abortion laws , it was never meant to be constitutional law.
Ahh that’s the way. When you prove yourself clueless the insults come out.
I don’t know why you try to prove yourself as some sort of scholar..you’ve never got one correct yet.
I suggest you try an easier target than me…you keep getting a flogging
You even agreed that the Supreme Court overruled Roe vs Wade. Which was the original point I made and then you cut and quoted it.
Trump didn’t over turn it. Thanks for now agreeing, it’s about time you saw the light.
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So rather than you just cut and quote a small segment of my reply to another poster and keep arguing the point.
Just answer one simple question.. Who overturned Roe vs Wade? It should be easy to answer.
Just answer one simple question.. Who overturned Roe vs Wade? It should be easy to answer.
A lot of hearsay, lies and innuendo repeated.
And even if we’re all true.. it really is indicative of how bad Biden/Harris/Obama/Clintons administration was. A total landslide against them, but it’s all about Trump
Spoken like your typical Trump supporter - And even if it were all true! Trump truths we should call them.
This thread will be another Willo spam special.
And even if we’re all true.. it really is indicative of how bad Biden/Harris/Obama/Clintons administration was. A total landslide against them, but it’s all about Trump
Spoken like your typical Trump supporter - And even if it were all true! Trump truths we should call them.
This thread will be another Willo spam special.
Willo, your post was nonsensical and you still keep digging.
As I have explained a number of times, the different laws in states on abortion were irrelevant, as any contradiction with the Roe v Wade decision made them invalid. This is why those, invalid, laws didn't attract headlines. Because they were invalid. Geez do I have to spell out everything?
Yes, it was the Supreme Court which overturned Roe v Wade, no-one has said otherwise (crap attempt at a straw man by the way). Why did the Supreme Court suddenly overturn Roe v Wade when it had not done so for decades? That would be because of the judges Trump appointed to the Supreme Court, hence his taking credit for the Dodds decision.
Roe v Wade was overturned because the Supreme Court was stacked with anti-choice judges, by Trump. How you can fail to see Trump's hand in this is beyond me, are you really that dumb?
DS
As I have explained a number of times, the different laws in states on abortion were irrelevant, as any contradiction with the Roe v Wade decision made them invalid. This is why those, invalid, laws didn't attract headlines. Because they were invalid. Geez do I have to spell out everything?
Yes, it was the Supreme Court which overturned Roe v Wade, no-one has said otherwise (crap attempt at a straw man by the way). Why did the Supreme Court suddenly overturn Roe v Wade when it had not done so for decades? That would be because of the judges Trump appointed to the Supreme Court, hence his taking credit for the Dodds decision.
Roe v Wade was overturned because the Supreme Court was stacked with anti-choice judges, by Trump. How you can fail to see Trump's hand in this is beyond me, are you really that dumb?
DS
Well done Clive. You spent 116 million dollars to get people voted in to push your agenda, and the best you got was this piece of *smile*. It says something about what a scumbag this guy is when he has me agreeing with Bandt for once.
The guy looks like a sleazebag, I’ve seen some of his real estate billboards around my area. After his comments, I dare say they won’t be in pristine condition for long after they get put up
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The guy looks like a sleazebag, I’ve seen some of his real estate billboards around my area. After his comments, I dare say they won’t be in pristine condition for long after they get put up
United Australia senator Ralph Babet posts racist, homophobic slurs — The Sydney Morning Herald
Greens leader Adam Bandt condemned Babet’s posts, arguing that President-elect Donald Trump’s victory had emboldened the hard right.
