-
IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
Steve Morris F/S
- Thread starter tigs2010
- Start date
Baron Samedi said:
Yer, meant that, but as I just told Botox, I was typing as I watched the footy. Not paying enough attention. But, whatever, Baron I'm really not interested in your lavatory humour.
The inability to discuss, debate or disagree rationally displayed when you resort to it, I just find pitiful.
tigerlove said:
Right so 4 Ds but 'he sill had 23 pressure acts ...' Well, that changes everything, no doubt. One tackle between Lloyd, Castagna and Bolton. No worries.
I feel totally relieved of any concern about Sunday's game now. Like Dimma and the team, I have learnt from this. I've taken something out of our losses.
We don't know who is actually going out of the team yet, let's see. However, with all these pressure acts, surely Carlton have no chance.
Expecting a nine goal win based on all our PAs from the SFs.
leon said:
Of course you missed the point but I'm used to that with you. Morris has no chance playing for the Tigers forward ever again and if he does, someone needs to be shot. ALL of Bolton, Castagna, Rioli, Butler have shown over the year that they have far more defensive presence than Morris. I am talking about Steve Morris here. You under-estimate the importance as a GROUP of the forward pressure that the Tigers have applied this year. Morris runs around like a headless chook making it look like he is doing something but when you strip it down to the bare minimum you see he has no presence whatsoever in defensive pressure as he's always half a second late. And just remember in the 'experiment' last year as a forward player, Morris only managed 1 solitary goal and zero goal assists in his 8 games Yes that's correct. As for tackling he is no tackling machine. He's a defensive type player yet only averaged 2.4 tackles a game in his career. I'm sorry he's not the answer, even if it's focusing on just the next game, Carlton. Fortunately the coaching panel at the Tigers felt the same.
B
Bill James
Guest
tigerlove said:
Well, firstly if they leave either Castagna or Lloyd out (suspect Butler will be left in because he did lay some tackles plus his PAs you cite, but also due to the hit from Jones affecting his performance, and assuming no ill effects), it will show dissatisfaction with defensive slackness in Swans loss.
Then it comes down to the result. I, for one, am not under-estimating the Blooos. I think they're a 5-goal better side than Rd.1. Another loss will really pile the pressure heavily back on Hardwick and the club. Still don't see how we are going to curb their running backs effectively; not with a group of kids who can only sustain half a game and one KPF.
I feel a demoralising loss coming on, with chipmunk Bolton schooling Dimma. Could be another crowd of disgruntled Tiges fans storming from the G, including me.
B
Bill James
Guest
leon said:
Firstly Butler had more than four disposals. The stats are wrong.
Secondly, compare Morris in 2015 (when he held down the small foward roll) with Butler in 2017 and its pretty obvious that Butler is better on any measure that matters.
Thirdly, have a look at how many stats Butler is in the top 10 for rising star eligible players. The kid is tracking very well and has room for game craft improvement. Basically don't think too much about the best option son, just take a good option and get on with it.
leon said:
I don't think our forward line defensive effort was in question. Swans did have the lowest number of scoring shots out of all the winners, in fact they had the 3rd least for the round. So clearly it wasn't that were getting easy rebounds from their backline forward. We lost it fairly and squarely with our kicking for goal. Swans aren't as bad as their ladder position suggests. They had a lot of injuries early on in the season. We matched them all over the ground except we couldn't convert the easier opportunities. I read today that we are currently 2nd worst in the comp for goal conversions with shots inside 30 metres.
leon said:
Fully agree. Carlton aren't a bad side, they can defeat good teams on their day and this is yet another big game for us. I don't see us losing it because of the forward line kids not being able to apply enough pressure. They are each playing 70% maximum game time. I don't think this is where we will lose it, this is where we've done very well throughout the season. Where we could probably lose it is a again being too short offensively in our forward line. We desperately need that second tall but we don't have it. It wil come down to once again whether our delivery into the forward line is any good. Been the issue all year.
leon said:
That's where praying can come in handy. On paper we should win this but as we've seen throughout the year across the whole competition, the paper has been thrown away.
Baron Samedi said:
I am not uncritical of Hardwick especially re his lack of tactical acumen. Sick of the close losses from 5.6 goal leads too.
However, Francis Jackson's poor drafting is the real disaster for the club IMO. After all these years, two KPFs, one of whom may never play again.
