Steve Morris F/S

[nikolasmia]

from what I understand the club rated devon smith above ellis.

Taylor Adams was rated at the same level as Ellis

In any case there was a huge gap in the ratings of the next group of youngsters

So they were very happy to get Ellis at 15 as he was rated in thr top 8.

Not sure it is as simple as smith vs ellis though GWS had three pix in a row before us and they could have gone in any order.

Looks like ellis can play, and his aerobic capacity and kicking ability is better than the other two players I mentioned

 

[Lennox Street]

from what I understand the club rated devon smith above ellis.
Not sure it is as simple as smith vs ellis though GWS had three pix in a row before us and they could have gone in any order.

And sometimes you get lucky. Smith is a bit like Luke Power and will probably spend more time across half-forward than as a permanant midfielder. We miss out on him and fill the need with Maric Jnr. Now we know Maric can see a pass and hit a target, if he can do the other things the coaches want we may come out of it ahead. I mean we end up with Ellis, Morris and Maric instead of Smith and another young rookie who might not play (instead of a recycled Maric)?

 

[Tigers of Old]

Depends on Smith & Ellis really.

Good early signs from both of them.

Smith aside, if we get a 150+ game player at pick 15 I'll be thrilled.
Was really impressed by Ellis the other night.
Early days but looks a ready made replacement for Newman at the very least.

 

[Leysy Days]

from what I understand the club rated devon smith above ellis.

Taylor Adams was rated at the same level as Ellis

In any case there was a huge gap in the ratings of the next group of youngsters

So they were very happy to get Ellis at 15 as he was rated in thr top 8.

Not sure it is as simple as smith vs ellis though GWS had three pix in a row before us and they could have gone in any order.

Looks like ellis can play, and his aerobic capacity and kicking ability is better than the other two players I mentioned

You to have a good mail man Big Nick.

And sometimes you get lucky. Smith is a bit like Luke Power and will probably spend more time across half-forward than as a permanant midfielder. We miss out on him and fill the need with Maric Jnr. Now we know Maric can see a pass and hit a target, if he can do the other things the coaches want we may come out of it ahead. I mean we end up with Ellis, Morris and Maric instead of Smith and another young rookie who might not play (instead of a recycled Maric)?

Wouldnt underestimate Devon Smith. He's knocked up getting the ball through his career.

Not sure of the relevance of A.Maric to the equation either. Devon Smith will run through the middle, play a lot higher & get more of the ball then Maric. Different roles & plenty of room for both.

Though as Tooheys said if Ellis turns out to be a good long-term player we can't complain. On early looks it appears the club were bang on the money with who they were keen on in any event.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

from what I understand the club rated devon smith above ellis.

Taylor Adams was rated at the same level as Ellis

In any case there was a huge gap in the ratings of the next group of youngsters

So they were very happy to get Ellis at 15 as he was rated in thr top 8.

Not sure it is as simple as smith vs ellis though GWS had three pix in a row before us and they could have gone in any order.

Looks like ellis can play, and his aerobic capacity and kicking ability is better than the other two players I mentioned

Club rated him in their Top 8. Is that you, Greg Miller?

 

[The Mole]

Morris not picked in the squad against Geelong. Is that a bad sign for him starting in round 1?

 

[zippadeee]

Morris not picked in the squad against Geelong. Is that a bad sign for him starting in round 1?

they have realised how bad he is , back to coburg!

 

[cmarkidis]

they have realised how bad he is , back to coburg!

You're ready to burn the bloke after a couple of mickey mouse nab cup games.

I can see the value in getting this kid to the club. He will build on his strengths as he adjusts to the tempo of AFL. You'll be eating your words about SM.

 

[nikolasmia]

If morris doesnt play round 1,

who plays on Betts and Garlett?

Newman gets towelled up every year, Ellis doesnt have the explosive speed,

Can't see Morris missing round 1 for that very reason,

 

[AstuteTiger]

If morris doesnt play round 1,

who plays on Betts and Garlett?

Newman gets towelled up every year, Ellis doesnt have the explosive speed,

Can't see Morris missing round 1 for that very reason,

agree 100%

 

[TigerMasochist]

Morris not picked in the squad against Geelong. Is that a bad sign for him starting in round 1?

Probably just balancing his gametime. He's already played senior SANFL for a few years so might not need an overload of work to be ready for round one.

 

[zippadeee]

You're ready to burn the bloke after a couple of mickey mouse nab cup games.

I can see the value in getting this kid to the club. He will build on his strengths as he adjusts to the tempo of AFL. You'll be eating your words about SM.

I'm not burning him, he done that on his own.
We haven't got a good defence, so what do we do? We bring in a 23 year old who can't kick.
Why did they get rid of thursfield?
We need 6 defenders that can hit targets, blokes like Morris will cost Hardwick job.
Derrickx & Morris aren't going to help us driving towards the 8.

You mentioned that they are only practise matches, your excatly right.
If he can't hit a target in a "mickey mouse" game how is going hit one against Carlton in round 1?

 

[mad_tiggy911]

I'm not burning him, he done that on his own.
We haven't got a good defence, so what do we do? We bring in a 23 year old who can't kick.
Why did they get rid of thursfield?
We need 6 defenders that can hit targets, blokes like Morris will cost Hardwick job.
Derrickx & Morris aren't going to help us driving towards the 8.

You mentioned that they are only practise matches, your excatly right.
If he can't hit a target in a "mickey mouse" game how is going hit one against Carlton in round 1?

Agree with Zippa on this one. If you can't hit targets in the NAB cup who stand 10 meters away how are you going to improve this in the real stuff.

 

[AstuteTiger]

I'm not burning him, he done that on his own.
We haven't got a good defence, so what do we do? We bring in a 23 year old who can't kick.
Why did they get rid of thursfield?
We need 6 defenders that can hit targets, blokes like Morris will cost Hardwick job.
Derrickx & Morris aren't going to help us driving towards the 8.

You mentioned that they are only practise matches, your excatly right.
If he can't hit a target in a "mickey mouse" game how is going hit one against Carlton in round 1?

u have no idea zippers, robery murphy of the dogs very skillful eh and smooth mover well that didnt serve him well on betts on the weekend, betts carved him up.....Morris's kicking efficiency in SA was around the 80% mark maybe a tad higher, sure AFL is much quicker but gee these praccy games are for him and the other newbies to get used to the speed.....dont discount the heat factor for being extra fatigued, there were alot of turn overs by many players on both teams.......also for players like betts and garlett u need a defender with absolute speed and cat like reflexes and Morris has that in spades, we also know he's very hard at it and will leave no stone un turned to stop his opponent that's the type u need on these tricky fwds like betts and garlett....

 

[zippadeee]

Agree with Zippa on this one. If you can't hit targets in the NAB cup who stand 10 meters away how are you going to improve this in the real stuff.

Would he be at RFC if his name wasn't Morris?
He missed selection in 4 previous drafts.
If he was any good, he would be in black & white.
Does just tackling blokes earn you a spot in our side?
Had big questions marks on him before we picked him and now watching him in 2 games and at training, I can't see how much he can improve his kicking. He dosent kick through the ball and his kicks always seem to drop really short.

Can I be proven wrong I really I hope he does improve his kicking action, but there a good chance if he dies play senior football this year his kicking will let him down.
Then again we will go through it again, richmond can't kick, Richmond recruits guys that can't kick etc

 

[zippadeee]

u have no idea zippers, robery murphy of the dogs very skillful eh and smooth mover well that didnt serve him well on betts on the weekend, betts carved him up.....Morris's kicking efficiency in SA was around the 80% mark maybe a tad higher, sure AFL is much quicker but gee these praccy games are for him and the other newbies to get used to the speed.....dont discount the heat factor for being extra fatigued, there were alot of turn overs by many players on both teams.......also for players like betts and garlett u need a defender with absolute speed and cat like reflexes and Morris has that in spades, we also know he's very hard at it and will leave no stone un turned to stop his opponent that's the type u need on these tricky fwds like betts and garlett....

I'm getting what your saying, so your happy with him just stopping his opponent
But happens when he needs to get rid of the ball?

 

[TigerMasochist]

If he can't hit a target in a "mickey mouse" game how is going hit one against Carlton in round 1?

If Carlscum can't win a " mickey mouse " game does that mean they're *smile* for the season and have no hope of winning a real game?

Flaws in your logic methinks zippertracks.

 

[cmarkidis]

Would he be at RFC if his name wasn't Morris?
He missed selection in 4 previous drafts.

What did he cost us - 3 parts of 4 fifths of F All!! Would we have taken Ellis with pick 14? I'd say yes. How many drafts did Podsiadly miss?

I recall Mark Coughlan in his 1st year or 2 was miles off the tempo of the game. We all know what Coughlan had though. As soon as he adjusted to the tempo he blossomed. I'm not saying he will turn out like another Cogs, but the kids got guts in spades.

 

[shad]

Can I be proven wrong I really I hope he does improve his kicking action, but there a good chance if he dies play senior football this year his kicking will let him down.
Then again we will go through it again, richmond can't kick, Richmond recruits guys that can't kick etc

The one certainty in the pre-season game IMO is that the kicking is sub-standard. I have never really understood why it is so bad but it always is, and magically it improves 100% in the last few weeks before the seaon starts. I would definently take a lot more notice of his SANFL stats than his NAB stats at this stage.

 

[Tigers of Old]

If morris doesnt play round 1,

who plays on Betts and Garlett?

Newman gets towelled up every year, Ellis doesnt have the explosive speed,

Can't see Morris missing round 1 for that very reason,

No doubt he will play round 1.
Just needs to put Betts into the third row.