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Steve Morris F/S

Bill James said:
Carlton were aware how highly our coaching staff rate Morris, and Yarran was instructed to take him away from the play. Not Morris fault he didn't pick up his usual 2-3 kicks, he was just doing his job.

So Yarran was instructed to keep Morris the Liability who cant get a kick out of play? :rofl :rofl
Can I get some of what you're on ?
 
btoz_01 said:
So Yarran was instructed to keep Morris the Liability who cant get a kick out of play? :rofl :rofl
Can I get some of what you're on ?
I think Bill had his tongue in his cheek
 
Chimptastic said:
If it's more than just publicly backing his players, and Morris is set to keep his spot, then I think this would have to be his logic:

- Our #22 player had 3 disposals, keeping the opposition's #3/#4 player to 9 disposals. WIN
- Alternative was to play McDonough as #22, who probably would have about 16 touches, but at the cost of Yarran having 25 touches.

I'm not sure he's weighing up the cost of carrying all 3 of Morris/Gordon/Newman in the forward half of the ground and how this impacts that last kick going into 50.

If he's going to persist with Morris, then he must be the ONLY forward that's not creative, effectively giving us a 5-man forward line with 1 tagger. As a team, we're breaking down at half forward like a bottom 4 side because we have a bottom 4 half forward line.

Actually our #22 player was Lambert, who came on in the third and had 11 disposals in less than two quarters.
The other point is incredible.
Hardwick complains about not getting value for the entries into forward 50 and has three small forwards like Gordon, Newman and Morris.
Either he's taking the *smile* or else he's stupid. He also has one of the most creative forwards in Riewoldt giving chances to his team mates and drawing the heat.
Gordon = 4 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 clangers
Newman = 4 kicks, 2 handball, 2 clangers
Morris = 0 kicks, 3 handball, 2 clangers
 
btoz_01 said:
So Yarran was instructed to keep Morris the Liability who cant get a kick out of play? :rofl :rofl
Can I get some of what you're on ?

Agree, the Dimma and Morris apologism and excuses we see around here are staggering.
 
For those that think The Liabilty kept Yarran quiet ::)

Yarran average for 2015 is- 13 kicks 3 handballs 4 marks 2 tackles. Poor stats really no world beater

For game against us where The Liability (Morris) supposedly kept Yarran quiet.
Yarran had 14 kicks 4 handballs 3 marks & 2 tackles just his usual game

Thats 14 more kicks than The Liability got the only person Morris kept quiet is himself
 
btoz_01 said:
For those that think The Liabilty kept Yarran quiet ::)

Yarran average for 2015 is- 13 kicks 3 handballs 4 marks 2 tackles. Poor stats really no world beater

For game against us where The Liability (Morris) supposedly kept Yarran quiet.
Yarran had 14 kicks 4 handballs 3 marks & 2 tackles just his usual game

Thats 14 more kicks than The Liability got the only person Morris kept quiet is himself

Yarran had 9 possies V iges last week and in rd 1 V tiges had 18...
Morris was simply hopeless, yarran had had a disappointing season and ave 16 possies a game didnt warrant morris getting a game ahead of mcdonough, lennon and a few others....deplorable selection....
 
AstuteTiger said:
Yarran had 9 possies V iges last week and in rd 1 V tiges had 18...
Morris was simply hopeless, yarran had had a disappointing season and ave 16 possies a game didnt warrant morris getting a game ahead of mcdonough, lennon and a few others....deplorable selection....
Yarran ruined his own game. Surely Morris wasn't the reason he gave away the 50 that we goaled from. He was nowhere near that contest. I did see him infringe on Yarran at least twice and give his opponent 2 free kicks. Even Bruce can't find anything nice to say about Steve. Says he plays a role, that's what he says when he can't think of anything good about a player. Newman is the same, according to Bruce he plays a role. I wish he could tell me exactly what role they both play.
 
I guess its been said somewhere here before but I finally saw the full match and what strikes me as what is wrong with Steve is that he just does not run into space when we are bringing the ball inside 50.

On one occasion he had the whole corridor, no sh!t, from CHF to FF open to lead into but he stayed with his man and a scoring opportunity went begging.

I really don't mind if Steve stays in the team but for Christsakes he must learn to be a forward if he is playing there.
 
St Kevin said:
Bill's tongue was drilling a hole in his cheek, I'd hazard.
Both cheeks. Joking us the best way to deal with a joke. Lots to like about Hardwick but he can be seriously pigheaded.
 
He takes a man. Usually the opp quarterback.

It's just a deadening role. He's not required to zone off and he can't run off because he's a forward.

It might be at the expense of a natural forward but as long as we're winning I'm happy.

I think Morris is a compromise. Dimma and the coaches have conceded first possession and inside 50s so they want defensive cover up forward so we don't leak too much through midfield.

I actually think Morris is very good at degrading opposition chains from D50.

Rarely a stat so it goes unnoticed by fans.
 
I can't wait to see the back of the Whipping Boy 3 (Newman, Gordon and Morris), but Morris is the one I'd prefer in over the other 2.
 
wayne said:
I can't wait to see the back of the Whipping Boy 3 (Newman, Gordon and Morris), but Morris is the one I'd prefer in over the other 2.
Given his contract situation, Morris will be the one left standing when the other 2 have gone.
 
Carter said:
He takes a man. Usually the opp quarterback.

It's just a deadening role. He's not required to zone off and he can't run off because he's a forward.

It might be at the expense of a natural forward but as long as we're winning I'm happy.

I think Morris is a compromise. Dimma and the coaches have conceded first possession and inside 50s so they want defensive cover up forward so we don't leak too much through midfield.

I actually think Morris is very good at degrading opposition chains from D50.

Rarely a stat so it goes unnoticed by fans.

So what are his stats on "degrading opposition chains"?
 
tigertim said:
So what are his stats on "degrading opposition chains"?

no stats, just what I've seen. ;D

I often notice Moro harassing the opposition kicker with his usual high intensity. he may not get a tackle or a smother in, but he hurries the opposition.

some might laugh, but if that ball is subsequently halved down the line instead of delivered lace out, Hardwick loves Moro and we should at least acknowledge him.

people say he offers nothing offensively and that's true. Dimma is walking a fine line here.
 
Carter said:
no stats, just what I've seen. ;D

I often notice Moro harassing the opposition kicker with his usual high intensity. he may not get a tackle or a smother in, but he hurries the opposition.

some might laugh, but if that ball is subsequently halved down the line instead of delivered lace out, Hardwick loves Moro and we should at least acknowledge him.

people say he offers nothing offensively and that's true. Dimma is walking a fine line here.

I agree with you Carts. He frustrates me at times, but I do enjoy watching him go full pelt at an opposition player and seeing the fear in their eyes. Said player will often *smile* themselves and turn the ball over which won't go down as a stat, but we have kicked goals from turnovers he has created.

I know Dimma will be marking them down for him even though the scorecard won't.
 
Tigertool said:
I agree with you Carts. He frustrates me at times, but I do enjoy watching him go full pelt at an opposition player and seeing the fear in their eyes. Said player will often sh!t themselves and turn the ball over which won't go down as a stat, but we have kicked goals from turnovers he has created.

I know Dimma will be marking them down for him even though the scorecard won't.

Sorry, but this is just fanciful. I dont think theres too many AFL players out theree fearful of Steven Morris. It's become an in joke to see Steve continually arrive at the contest that 1 second too late. But if you wish to highlight any of these instances of Steve causing anyone to *smile* themselves and turn the ball over I'm all ears.
 
tigertim said:
Sorry, but this is just fanciful. I dont think theres too many AFL players out theree fearful of Steven Morris. It's become an in joke to see Steve continually arrive at the contest that 1 second too late. But if you wish to highlight any of these instances of Steve causing anyone to sh!t themselves and turn the ball over I'm all ears.

I notice it at the time, but don't mark down specific moments and times every week. But there is one I can think of on Friday night in either the 2nd or 4th quarter where Morry applied hard pressure on a Carlton player (Touhy?) and he looked inward, miss kicked and turned the ball over just outside our 50m arc, pretty sure we scored from it, but I can't remember if it was a goal or point.