Steve Morris F/S

[Merveille]

Buckley made the point tonight that full on taggers are in decline because you cannot afford to carry them. Players need to be creative as well.
The game is asking more of all players all over the ground. Great forwards need to be great defenders, and vice-versa. Great on ballers need to defend very well too.

Morris needss to do a lot more offensively. He is not even elite defensively.

He is being carried. At the moment the Tigers are setting up so well defensively when the ball enters out forward line, that the exits are being blocked due to structure - it aint due to this passenger

 

[tigerlove]

You can see it better at ground level at the game.

But good onya for having a look :fing32

Who's he harassing then, the orange boy?

 

[BrisTiger24]

Who do the Dockers have that gets no touches but applied pressure? The Hawks? Swans?

 

[jb03]

You didn't last long on the bandwagon.
I don't think anyone is saying he should be in the team. Some of us are just trying to bring some balance to the bagging frenzy that some on here like to engage in.

I was disappointed in his percentage of stats as score involvements this week. one possession for one score involvement would have done the trick!

 

[wayne]

Who do the Dockers have that gets no touches but applied pressure? The Hawks? Swans?

I guess Crowley came close, but he at least shut down the opposition gun mid.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Some good posts already explaining the benchmark for intensity he brings. Another factor is the brown pants factor. He is making defenders worry about what will happen to them. Before they gather the ball and while they have it.

The mental pressure and fear make them less effective.

A few posters have mentioned how easy sides would role out of our fwd 50 in the past. Morris has been a big factor in why we have been able to address this.




look Im not sold on this experiment either, but I think people need to look at his role and what he is there for rather than judge him as a small fwd. People say Harwick is a coach with no original thoughts. This is one. Not sure steve is the answer to his idea, but steve is giving it everything he has, he is manic.




But agree that it would be nice to find a player who could offer more on the other side of the coin. YArran when playing at his best offers the manic attack on the defender and sublime offensive skills. In my interpretation of what Dima is thinking he would be the ideal player for it. Although probably to much of an asset to sacrifice for this type of role.

Good post. Like Morris or no, think Morris deserves his spot or not it is irrelevant in the bigger picture.
Harwick is making it very clear to every player on the list that he places an enormous importance on defensive work rate.
I have been hoping for that for years from a Richmond team.
If Morris gets upgraded for a better player, great but they'll be one that can kick goals AND apply what Steve is now.

 

[Tames]

Its easier to think of Morris as an assistant coach, that plays.

You can't drop him for poor performance, and you can't fire him.

 

[Brodders17]

I was disappointed in his percentage of stats as score involvements this week. one possession for one score involvement would have done the trick!

very few of his possessions werent scores or score involvements. only 5 i think. the like of Ellis, Cotchin, Martin had about 20 disposals that werent socres or score involvements. he is efficient.

 

[ninjahaha]

Who's he harassing then, the orange boy?

Sorry, my ole TV needs updating, it only shows what the camera that the director picks at that moment to show. Most often where the ball is.

Im excited to here that they show the whole ground and you can watch any player at any moment. Do you still get the close ups of whats going on at the contest?

 

[tigertim]

Sorry, my ole TV needs updating, it only shows what the camera that the director picks at that moment to show. Most often where the ball is.

Im excited to here that they show the whole ground and you can watch any player at any moment. Do you still get the close ups of whats going on at the contest?

So it's just coincidence that all Steves good work is off camera, bugger that's unfortunate.......

 

[ninjahaha]

So it's just coincidence that all Steves good work is off camera, bugger that's unfortunate.......

Plenty footage of his intense harassment in the footage of games I have seen.

Im not thorough enough (like yourself to go back through replays to find it.) I have seen it, others have also.

But without trying to erk you and others who dislike what he brings to the side, I think you have missed the point. It may come across as we are trying to make him out To be elite, or even worthy of a spot. We are just pointing out there is more to the morris experiment to consider.

Never played sport with a guy who is not that great but always gives more than anyone else? You know when its there turn to go, they go and they go hard. It can make a huge difference to the intensity others bring. That in itself can get you across the line or just lift the competitiveness of a side. To win competitive sport you need more than skill. You need to want it more than they do!

When others come into the side they know they need to be prepared to do the same.




Its just not as clear cut as this players a dud, that one isnt. Think Colin Sylvia. Look at all the talent GCS have! Its what they give or dont sometimes.

 

[Chimptastic]

Plenty footage of his intense harassment in the footage of games I have seen.

Im not thorough enough (like yourself to go back through replays to find it.) I have seen it, others have also.

But without trying to erk you and others who dislike what he brings to the side, I think you have missed the point. It may come across as we are trying to make him out To be elite, or even worthy of a spot. We are just pointing out there is more to the morris experiment to consider.

Never played sport with a guy who is not that great but always gives more than anyone else? You know when its there turn to go, they go and they go hard. It can make a huge difference to the intensity others bring. That in itself can get you across the line or just lift the competitiveness of a side. To win competitive sport you need more than skill. You need to want it more than they do!

When others come into the side they know they need to be prepared to do the same.




Its just not as clear cut as this players a dud, that one isnt. Think Colin Sylvia. Look at all the talent GCS have! Its what they give or dont sometimes.

This is where I stand too. I'm not saying his performances are desirable or that he has a long-term role up forward. I'd like people to consider the underlying motivations behind Steve's selection (Damien Hardwick's core values), since that's where the decision has come from.

Furthermore, Gerard Murphy advocated Steve's transition into the leadership group, and he seriously knows leadership. Presumably, Murphy also consults Damien Hardwick and the other leaders about how to instil their core values into the team.

Dimma's philosophy is to create a tough team that gives 100% effort in every facet of the game. Morris helps him achieve this goal. Put all that together and consider how it sounds to say "drop him, he got 6 touches"...

 

[Midsy]

To win competitive sport you need more than skill.

Skill would be a good starting point though.

When others come into the side they know they need to be prepared to do the same.

Be nice if they got the chances Morris keeps getting.

In, out, in, out, shake it all about...

 

[TigerMasochist]

Plenty footage of his intense harassment in the footage of games I have seen.


Never played sport with a guy who is not that great but always gives more than anyone else? You know when its there turn to go, they go and they go hard. It can make a huge difference to the intensity others bring. That in itself can get you across the line or just lift the competitiveness of a side. To win competitive sport you need more than skill. You need to want it more than they do!

When others come into the side they know they need to be prepared to do the same.

I've worked it out :idea. Morris is our version of a Dellavedova.
Heard an interview , might have been K.B. or Harf last week with one of Aust basketball heroes regarding Delly. When Delly was working out with the Cavs, pre season I think, they split all their players into different rotating mixtures to trial them n Delly kept bobbing up in the winning teams. Didn't matter what combinations of players they used against which others, Delly would be in the winningest group over n over again, so they drafted or contracted him.
Nowhere near the most talented or biggest or smartest player, but a desperate beast for the contest. Helps his team mates to walk a bit taller n try a bit harder deep in the heat of the contest, Delly just hates to lose any contest or point n it rubs off on the rest of his team.
We've got a Delly Morris.

 

[tigerlove]

Sorry, my ole TV needs updating, it only shows what the camera that the director picks at that moment to show. Most often where the ball is.

Im excited to here that they show the whole ground and you can watch any player at any moment. Do you still get the close ups of whats going on at the contest?

I must be missing all this orange boy pressure work when I'm at the games cause all I see is what I see on TV, the ball over here in the opposition player's hands and Morris over there 15 metres away getting to effect his elite pressurising/cajoling skills just after the opposition player has drilled a pass to his team mate up the ground. Morris has maybe played 2 games (being kind) where he has displayed enough manic pressure to maybe vaguely make up for his lack of disposals and one of those was against bottom side Carlton. Any other player would have been well and truly dropped by now and I don't buy the theory that he's getting a game to make a point to other reserves players that they are not doing enough defensively. If this is true then it is a very bad ploy because there are other players who are not getting a game and performing far more consistently than Morris. All it's doing is showing that we still favour certain players regardless of form. Other clubs have the balls to drop their non-performing experienced players, why do the Tigers still have so much trouble with this? Drop Morris, let him find his form, and bring him back when he proves that he can consistently perform at VFL level.

 

[pete and tys]

I was at the game and saw it exactly as you did.

What it tells me is this... the players in the seconds who should replace Morris, that is, Lennon and Mc Donnough,
must be viewed as lazy and not giving enough,otherwise they would walk into the side.
Dimma clearly has demonstrated that effort is needed in the. Forward 50 to keep the ball inside 50 and
Lennon and Mc D do not do enough to warrant selection.
So........why don't they? That's what I don't get.

 

[Midsy]

I was at the game and saw it exactly as you did.

What it tells me is this... the players in the seconds who should replace Morris, that is, Lennon and Mc Donnough,
must be viewed as lazy and not giving enough,otherwise they would walk into the side.
Dimma clearly has demonstrated that effort is needed in the. Forward 50 to keep the ball inside 50 and
Lennon and Mc D do not do enough to warrant selection.
So........why don't they? That's what I don't get.

Neither does Morris, so why does he keep getting a game?

His 'manic pressure' is non existent. Watched the second half again last night, specifically watching Morris. It was actually quite funny watching him trying to impact contests - he couldn't get near them.

A dead set liability.

 

[Bill James]

Neither does Morris, so why does he keep getting a game?

His 'manic pressure' is non existent. Watched the second half again last night, specifically watching Morris. It was actually quite funny watching him trying to impact contests - he couldn't get near them.

A dead set liability.

The master of arriving desperately late, or is that late desperately?

 

[Letsroar]

Maybe McDonna & Lennon think no matter how bad Morris is he will not be dropped by Dimma. This just might sap the motivation a bit

 

[Smoking Aces]

I've worked it out :idea. Morris is our version of a Dellavedova.
Heard an interview , might have been K.B. or Harf last week with one of Aust basketball heroes regarding Delly. When Delly was working out with the Cavs, pre season I think, they split all their players into different rotating mixtures to trial them n Delly kept bobbing up in the winning teams. Didn't matter what combinations of players they used against which others, Delly would be in the winningest group over n over again, so they drafted or contracted him.
Nowhere near the most talented or biggest or smartest player, but a desperate beast for the contest. Helps his team mates to walk a bit taller n try a bit harder deep in the heat of the contest, Delly just hates to lose any contest or point n it rubs off on the rest of his team.
We've got a Delly Morris.

I don't mind that comparison. Nice work TM.