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Steve Morris F/S

On the flip side, doesn't our back line look so much more composed and solid with Morris out of it.

Once he is out if the forward line that will function better too.

Why not C Ellis half forward, swapping with a Martin or Chimp or Edwards mid.

I'd even promote Shorty off the rookie list. You get speed, tackles, smarts and goals.

Choice of Maddonna, Lennon or Gordon as a sub.
 
Rancey18 said:
Listed as one of our best in the HS. Stunned by that tbh.

I'll second that . Ridiculous that he could even be considered for the bests . As for Campbell Brown's comments , he is short on brain cells .
 
Rancey18 said:
Listed as one of our best in the HS. Stunned by that tbh.
The RFC have this listed as best:
BEST
Richmond: B.Ellis, Martin, Cotchin, Edwards, Deledio, Grigg.

Don't know what game Sam Edmund from the SHUN was watching. Something NQR that Sam listed NINE players in the Richmond best, all other teams have mostly 6 players (7 max) listed.
 
i thought morris was a bit down on his star jump enthusiasm yesterday. another effort like that and hr might get dropped.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
A throwback to the days of Andy Goodwin. I don't know how we're getting away with it.

Goodwin was better. Could play in the ruck and was mobile and could take a mark
 
Morris was contributing
Two aggressive acts, then the ball rolls to Martin who kicks a goal from 50, But Morris held it in there until Dusty was free and he Dusty kicks the goal off a step from 50
Later a Clean flying mark, gets thumped, undisciplined revenge by the Bombers, 50 metres, goal
And there was more, shepparding, blocking, tackling, bumping, taking the Bombers minds off competing for the pill, creating a bit of uncertainty as to when they'd be smashed to the ground next.
He's a bit of the underclass grunt that gives some space and the ball to those with elite skills and make them look silky
A part of the Richmond Way

I haven't noticed many others doing it with the same intensity, pace or flair but maybe I've just missed it.
 
DirtyDogTiger said:
Why don't you all just accept that Steve is a lock and we are winning, so move on.

Cos he's *smile* and we could be winning more easily.
 
He's playing a role, at least for the past fortnight. He has defenders crapping themselves. Unsociable as *smile*.

No team is transitioning quickly out of our forward line, because we are excellent at stopping them and making them kick over the mark. Sounds minor, but it's huge. Morro is the best at it. He bumps, he shepherds, he niggles, he gives Corey Ellis confidence.

Cyril Rioli gets 15 touches a game and is a superstar. Stevie can have 7 and be a role player. The last two weeks, he's been much more than the sum of his disposals.
 
billyb#40 said:
Morris was contributing
Two aggressive acts, then the ball rolls to Martin who kicks a goal from 50, But Morris held it in there until Dusty was free and he Dusty kicks the goal off a step from 50
Later a Clean flying mark, gets thumped, undisciplined revenge by the Bombers, 50 metres, goal
And there was more, shepparding, blocking, tackling, bumping, taking the Bombers minds off competing for the pill, creating a bit of uncertainty as to when they'd be smashed to the ground next.
He's a bit of the underclass grunt that gives some space and the ball to those with elite skills and make them look silky
A part of the Richmond Way

I haven't noticed many others doing it with the same intensity, pace or flair but maybe I've just missed it.
Sounds pretty close to the mark from my view. Plenty of talented players can fluff around n do the cheap n easy stuff. Stevie M can't do much of anything well but bring manic intensity n endeavour every time the ball comes into his vicinity. If others, especially our younger players or perhaps silky talents, can learn a bit from his integrity of work rate on field it can only make us a better team in the long run.
 
Just some more stats on Stevie. Now we know he had 6 possessions for the game at 67% DE (had that 1 turnover clanger) so 5 effective possessions for the game.

He had ONE contested possession, 5 uncontested. Only C Ellis our sub had less CP.

He gained 55 metres, the worst of any Richmond player, even Ellis the sub who gained 69 metres.

He had 1 mark. Only the sub Ellis had less (0).

He had 3 tackles and 10 pressure acts. 12 other players had the same number, or more, pressure acts as Steve so he's not leading the way there either.

He had no score assists and 2 score involvements. Only defenders Grimes and Hunt and the sub Ellis had less score involvements (1 each).
 
spook said:
He's playing a role, at least for the past fortnight. He has defenders crapping themselves. Unsociable as *smile*.

No team is transitioning quickly out of our forward line, because we are excellent at stopping them and making them kick over the mark. Sounds minor, but it's huge. Morro is the best at it. He bumps, he shepherds, he niggles, he gives Corey Ellis confidence.

Cyril Rioli gets 15 touches a game and is a superstar. Stevie can have 7 and be a role player. The last two weeks, he's been much more than the sum of his disposals.

Did you mention Rioli in this thread?
 
Can't believe there's a better option for the forward pocket. I'd prefer McDonough to Morris. Surely first requirement of a forward pocket is to be dangerous and look to score.
 
tigertim said:
Just some more stats on Stevie. Now we know he had 6 possessions for the game at 67% DE (had that 1 turnover clanger) so 5 effective possessions for the game.

He had ONE contested possession, 5 uncontested. Only C Ellis our sub had less CP.

He gained 55 metres, the worst of any Richmond player, even Ellis the sub who gained 69 metres.

He had 1 mark. Only the sub Ellis had less (0).

He had 3 tackles and 10 pressure acts. 12 other players had the same number, or more, pressure acts as Steve so he's not leading the way there either.

He had no score assists and 2 score involvements. Only defenders Grimes and Hunt and the sub Ellis had less score involvements (1 each).
Yep, just because he is doing a role doesn't mean he should be.
 
tigertim said:
Same argument though, you ask why the others can't be as defensive as Steve (and I'm not sure who of Lloyd, McDonough, Arnott isn't laying the same amount of tackles and chasing as much as Steve, need stats on that I guess) but I ask why Steve can't be more offensive?

Because you don't need any talent to play with intensity, but you do need talent to play with attacking flair. Anyone can play with intensity, it's all in the mind. Even you and I could play like Steve Morris if we psyched ourselves up for it (although it would take tremendous courage, so I mean no disrespect to Steve).

Dimma is forcing other players to play the Richmond way or they don't play. Give me a Morris with 10/10 intensity than a Jordan McMahon with a 10/10 attacking mindset but you can't believe it's not butter... The spot is right there if someone wants it enough. Just go in harder than Steve, simple. We should be questioning the VFL players unable to dislodge Steve from the team by not putting in the same defensive efforts as he does.
 
It's beyond pathetic now. It's embarrassing watching his leads up to the ball carrier inside 50. Just ambles in but offers no real option because he doesn't want the ball and players sure don't want to kick it to him. You can tell they know he's a spud too and probably wonder the same as everyone else.