Steve Morris F/S

[tigerlove]

Did any of his critics watch the vfl the past couple of weeks? Morris isn't being gifted a game ... unfortunately there is nobody in the vfl worthy of replacing him!

I've seen plenty from players who couldn't possibly do worse than Morris. McDonough, whilst not extremely consistent would provide a lot more right here, right now. McD is 21, Morris is 26, I know who I'd be putting my development efforts into.

 

[seven]

Would have to be the worse player in the league.
I can't even imagine Carlton giving this guy a game.

 

[tigertim]

6 possessions in 85%time on on ground ... dont really have much to add to those stats

Yep, 3 handballs, 3 kicks @ 67% efficiency (1 clanger), 3 tackles, 1 mark, 1 goal, 10 pressure acts.

1 contested possession, 5 uncontested.

 

[Dyer'ere]

I'd marked him droppable for the first seven games but I gave him a pass for last night.

 

[philipwalsh]

I don't mind playing him with other players like ellis. mcbean and menadue coming in. His hardness is good with young players around. I can't bear him at times but with younger players he makes at least some sense. We might need him against freo bodies

 

[btoz_01]

No BT - I'm not sold on Morris either but would be nice to acknowledge when he does get it right. Balance, fairness... all that shyte, you dig man?

Does what right?
Why is he so precious that he can't be dropped no other player has been gifted so many games for Zero output and impact on a game
No wonder the ball is constantly rebounded out of our forward line he doesn't tackle to lock the ball iin
Why are we playing 1short in the forward line with the "liability" playing there Play him back or drop him just get him out of the forward line

 

[tigertim]

Bizarrely Sam Edmund in the SHUN talked up his game and apparently Campbell Brown on MMM said it might be the best 3 possession game ever!

I'll have to watch the tape back because all I saw was a guy touch it 6 times lay 3 tackles, kick a goal and yes, he chased well, but geez, chasing is a minimum in footy. And it just shows how little you have the ball if you're always chasing.

 

[AngryAnt]

I'd marked him droppable for the first seven games but I gave him a pass for last night.

With DE on my side I'm in good company at least.

 

[jamo]

a couple of pressure acts ...

and not much else.

Lennon or McDonagh should be in this role to create, not to defend.

This.

He is in because he is in the leadership group, both those players would serve us better.

 

[Rantnrave]

mcdonough was very very good again...surely we would be better with him in the forward line....

 

[AstuteTiger]

Seriously how can anyone defend this guy, 6 disposals, if arnot or Mcdonough had 6 disposals they'd be dropped, well arnot did have 10 possies,6 tackles and a goal and got dropped early this year as did Mcdonough as a sub with 7 possies...

Morris is just a VFL standard player, he also only had 3 tackles....Took a courageous mark and goaled from the goal square but goaling once every 3 games doesn't cut it...

Some give him way to much credit, we are playing one man down every time this spud takes to the field...

Enough is enough.....

Would luv to see McDonough get an extended run in Morri's role.....

 

[Jason King]

He had the most head pats on the night. That's got to be a good stat right? The team obviously love him so for those who go to games is there something special he does off the ball?

I personally dont like him being used as a dumb cannonball. I would much prefer they just develop his skills (much like Jake King did) and make him into a link up player.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

He had the most head pats on the night. That's got to be a good stat right? The team obviously love him so for those who go to games is there something special he does off the ball?

I personally dont like him being used as a dumb cannonball. I would much prefer they just develop his skills (much like Jake King did) and make him into a link up player.

The problem JK is that his skills have been developed as far as they can. He's not a natural forward, just doesn't have the mindset. Jake always did, even when he was stuck in defence. As long as we keep picking him, we're going in a player short.

 

[Chimptastic]

he chased well, but geez, chasing is a minimum in footy.

Yet in the past 3 decades so many players haven't met this bare minimum. Look at Gold Coast. Full of talent, unwilling to chase.

Dimma is a great coach for improving our culture, always has been. This move is strengthening the backbone of the Richmond Football Club. I view it as a short-term sacrifice of 1 position to improve the defensive intent of the other 43 blokes in the long run.

In his 6th year as coach, Dimma is demanding us to become the best defensive team in the comp. We are winning with an ugly, tough brand of football. Rigid defensive values by the coaches are behind our recent wins, and Morris is a consequence of this coaching attitude. Big picture guys.

 

[tigertim]

Yet in the past 3 decades so many players haven't met this bare minimum. Look at Gold Coast. Full of talent, unwilling to chase.

Dimma is a great coach for improving our culture, always has been. This move is strengthening the backbone of the Richmond Football Club. I view it as a short-term sacrifice of 1 position to improve the defensive intent of the other 43 blokes in the long run.

In his 6th year as coach, Dimma is demanding us to become the best defensive team in the comp. We are winning with an ugly, tough brand of football. Rigid defensive values by the coaches are behind our recent wins, and Morris is a consequence of this coaching attitude. Big picture guys.

So are you saying Steve can't be a defensive player as well as an offensive player? If he can't then he has serious limitations which surely won't endure as an AFL player. Guys aren't getting promoted (or are getting demoted) because they aren't defensive enough. Surely players should be held accountable to the same level if their offensive game isn't acceptable?

 

[Chimptastic]

So are you saying Steve can't be a defensive player as well as an offensive player? If he can't then he has serious limitations which surely won't endure as an AFL player. Guys aren't getting promoted (or are getting demoted) because they aren't defensive enough. Surely players should be held accountable to the same level if their offensive game isn't acceptable?

Let's say Dimma has to choose between two players:

Attack: 10
Defence: 1

Defence: 10
Attack: 1

Which one do you choose?

The defensive one, of course. Because the guy with 10 Attack is more capable of lifting his defensive game to a 6 or a 7 than the defensive guy is of raising his attacking game to a 6 or a 7.

Anyone can defend if they put in the effort. So why don't they? They know they'll get a game. What's stopping McDonough, Lloyd, etc from being even harder than Morris? Just their mindset. That's all. It's nothing to do with ability. And the job of a coach is to shape mindsets to create a better culture to win games.

There's at least 10 blokes on our list that are a bit soft and there's absolutely nothing stopping them from lifting their defensive intensity except for their own mindset. As soon as they can match Steve's mindset, they'll get a game. In fact, they'll be guaranteed a game. And we'll be a much better team. That's the way I see it.

 

[tigertim]

Let's say Dimma has to choose between two players:

Attack: 10
Defence: 1

Defence: 10
Attack: 1

Which one do you choose?

The defensive one, of course. Because the guy with 10 Attack is more capable of lifting his defensive game to a 6 or a 7 than the defensive guy is of raising his attacking game to a 6 or a 7.

Anyone can defend if they put in the effort. So why don't they? They know they'll get a game. What's stopping McDonough, Lloyd, etc from being even harder than Morris? Just their mindset. That's all. It's nothing to do with ability. And the job of a coach is to shape mindsets to create a better culture to win games.

There's at least 10 blokes on our list that are a bit soft and there's absolutely nothing stopping them from lifting their defensive intensity except for their own mindset. As soon as they can match Steve's mindset, they'll get a game. In fact, they'll be guaranteed a game. And we'll be a much better team. That's the way I see it.

Same argument though, you ask why the others can't be as defensive as Steve (and I'm not sure who of Lloyd, McDonough, Arnott isn't laying the same amount of tackles and chasing as much as Steve, need stats on that I guess) but I ask why Steve can't be more offensive?

 

[AngryAnt]

Let's say Dimma has to choose between two players:

Attack: 10
Defence: 1

Defence: 10
Attack: 1

Which one do you choose?

The defensive one, of course. Because the guy with 10 Attack is more capable of lifting his defensive game to a 6 or a 7 than the defensive guy is of raising his attacking game to a 6 or a 7.

Anyone can defend if they put in the effort. So why don't they? They know they'll get a game. What's stopping McDonough, Lloyd, etc from being even harder than Morris? Just their mindset. That's all. It's nothing to do with ability. And the job of a coach is to shape mindsets to create a better culture to win games.

There's at least 10 blokes on our list that are a bit soft and there's absolutely nothing stopping them from lifting their defensive intensity except for their own mindset. As soon as they can match Steve's mindset, they'll get a game. In fact, they'll be guaranteed a game. And we'll be a much better team. That's the way I see it.

Nicely summed up chimpa.

The message being sent is that if you are talented but soft or lazy, do time in the twos.

 

[josey]

Nicely summed up chimpa.

The message being sent is that if you are talented but soft or lazy, do time in the twos.

Yep I agree.

The Richmond Way?

 

[tigerman]

I really love Stevie's endeavour but he is really struggling as a forward, and our backline is going well. Having said that I would love to see him play on and belt the bejesus out of that runt Ballantyne on Friday night.