Fortunately I was walking around Rottnest Island that day and still have never watched that game.Sintiger said:Reminded me of that day at Etihad when we got flogged by Geelong by 150+ points. I have never been closer to giving up footy than then because the future for my team looked hopeless.
I know quite a few Carlton fans and my memory of that was that I received little sympathy, in fact I received a lot of ribbing. The big question for me is whether I give it back or am I better than that? :
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Round 17 - other games
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Sydney's loss was worse.
Bloekhurt, Jones and Tutt look really good...
Feel sorry for John Barker.
If anything, I hope the antagonising embarressment of that loss forces Carlton down the 'Neo' Coach path, rather than the Leper Messiah one they should be bravely taking.
Bloekhurt, Jones and Tutt look really good...
Feel sorry for John Barker.
If anything, I hope the antagonising embarressment of that loss forces Carlton down the 'Neo' Coach path, rather than the Leper Messiah one they should be bravely taking.
Mr ell themSintiger said:Reminded me of that day at Etihad when we got flogged by Geelong by 150+ points. I have never been closer to giving up footy than then because the future for my team looked hopeless.
I know quite a few Carlton fans and my memory of that was that I received little sympathy, in fact I received a lot of ribbing. The big question for me is whether I give it back or am I better than that? :
You feel sorry for them and suggest tips for being better.
"Maybe if you move cotchin to the forward line.oh wait, you didn't draft him.
What if Kennedy goes to CHF.
Oh right, you traded him"
Sir said:When we were growing up it wasn't called .........'football' it wasn't called .............. 'soccer' ............... it was called ..... "W_gball"
For a reason!
Carlton supporter base????
95,000 at the G to watch ............ ???
You do the math!
Besides - there is a limit to how much sport a Carlscum supporter can afford from his weekly welfare cheque/pizza driver takings!!!
And the drivel out of Eddie's mouth last night was insulting!!!!
The idea that we have to prop up Ess/Carl (read Collingwood) for AFL to succeed is *smile* disgraceful!!!
Unbelievable!
If Carlton lie bottom of the ladder for ten years - bad LUCK!! Suck it up!
Tigers, St Kilda (and many others) have done so for 20-30 years!!!
How dare these sycophantic commentators suggest that the success of the AFL lies in Carlton/Essendon (read Collingwood) being strong - or that they should actively rig the draw (Friday night games???) to favour high drawing crowds???
How about the other way around??
Build up the lower base clubs so that the competition is equal - and the money/crowds are distributed fairly???
FFS - can't believe what came out of Eddies mouth last night:
Agrre with all that but surely in Australia we call it MATHS as in MATHERMATICS, the Americanisation of our Country & Language, I hate it
MurrayValleyTiger said:
Tony Shaw was going on last night about Rich v Blues shouldn't start the season because Carlton will be crap for the next 5 years. Not good for the game etc. When it was thrown back at him if that is the case will need to look at changing the Collingwood v Carlton/Essendon block busters such as Anzac Day, Tony's response was that is a different story, there were three games on Anzac Day this year, etc.
The good old Collingwood double standards!
Sir said:When we were growing up it wasn't called .........'football' it wasn't called .............. 'soccer' ............... it was called ..... "W_gball"
For a reason!
Carlton supporter base????
95,000 at the G to watch ............ ???
You do the math!
Besides - there is a limit to how much sport a Carlscum supporter can afford from his weekly welfare cheque/pizza driver takings!!!
And the drivel out of Eddie's mouth last night was insulting!!!!
The idea that we have to prop up Ess/Carl (read Collingwood) for AFL to succeed is *smile* disgraceful!!!
Unbelievable!
If Carlton lie bottom of the ladder for ten years - bad LUCK!! Suck it up!
Tigers, St Kilda (and many others) have done so for 20-30 years!!!
How dare these sycophantic commentators suggest that the success of the AFL lies in Carlton/Essendon (read Collingwood) being strong - or that they should actively rig the draw (Friday night games???) to favour high drawing crowds???
How about the other way around??
Build up the lower base clubs so that the competition is equal - and the money/crowds are distributed fairly???
FFS - can't believe what came out of Eddies mouth last night
What's with the casual racism? Is it actually necessary?
ninjahaha said:
Haha very good. :hihi
Sintiger said:Reminded me of that day at Etihad when we got flogged by Geelong by 150+ points. I have never been closer to giving up footy than then because the future for my team looked hopeless.
I know quite a few Carlton fans and my memory of that was that I received little sympathy, in fact I received a lot of ribbing. The big question for me is whether I give it back or am I better than that? :
That still burns in my memory. I was fairly young when we lost to North by 141 in 1990 but I still remember it and this was worse. To put it in perspective the margin at half time that day was 107...in other words we were about 7 goals further down at half time than Carlton were last night. Doesn't bear thinking about. I still remember even the vast majority of my non Richmond mates with whom I had the most running banter backed off in the days after the Geelong game. Anyone who gave it to you after that deserves to get it back in spades.
I went last night and stayed til the end.
It's all been down hill since the 2013 EF at the G.
Looking at this from an AFL fan's point of view rather than a Blues point of view....
I think it's amusing about all the noise being made about Carlton and Essendon 'needing to get back up the ladder' for the good of the game. They're both in the positions they are with nobody to blame but themselves. Even though both clubs have been utter *smile* for years, the 'born to rule' self-entitled attitude hasn't gone away....if anything it might have even intensified as each club finds itself further away from a flag by the year.
Both sets of supporters have been blueing over the years about who will reach flag #17 first....at this rate the Hawks will overtake both....perhaps not in this era but eventually.
The 1995 team celebrating its flag anniversary this year must have been embarrassed for the club watching on last night - and not just on the field either.
Carlton's 1995 season at the time was a record...an unbelievable side. The nose-rubbing from the president down to all other clubs and their supporters was relentless.....just as Essendon were in 2000 when they won the flag with their record-breaking year...Kevin Sheedy, Hird, and the supporters....unbearable.
So if other clubs are rejoicing in the failure of both of them these days and in years gone by, and fair enough too, it's worth remembering that the shoe was very much on the other foot at some stage throughout history.
What goes around comes around and if Blues fans and Bombers fans don't like it, ask them to cast their minds back to their own behaviour in their respective heydays.
It's all been down hill since the 2013 EF at the G.
Looking at this from an AFL fan's point of view rather than a Blues point of view....
I think it's amusing about all the noise being made about Carlton and Essendon 'needing to get back up the ladder' for the good of the game. They're both in the positions they are with nobody to blame but themselves. Even though both clubs have been utter *smile* for years, the 'born to rule' self-entitled attitude hasn't gone away....if anything it might have even intensified as each club finds itself further away from a flag by the year.
Both sets of supporters have been blueing over the years about who will reach flag #17 first....at this rate the Hawks will overtake both....perhaps not in this era but eventually.
The 1995 team celebrating its flag anniversary this year must have been embarrassed for the club watching on last night - and not just on the field either.
Carlton's 1995 season at the time was a record...an unbelievable side. The nose-rubbing from the president down to all other clubs and their supporters was relentless.....just as Essendon were in 2000 when they won the flag with their record-breaking year...Kevin Sheedy, Hird, and the supporters....unbearable.
So if other clubs are rejoicing in the failure of both of them these days and in years gone by, and fair enough too, it's worth remembering that the shoe was very much on the other foot at some stage throughout history.
What goes around comes around and if Blues fans and Bombers fans don't like it, ask them to cast their minds back to their own behaviour in their respective heydays.
BluesBloke said:
Great post bud. Good on you for sticking by them.
After 33 + years of stinken it up, there is a load you can learn from going to the footy as a fan not cause you know youll win, but cause its what we do through winter. Its like living in the bush and having a side thats always bottom 2. Dosnt mater, go down the club, watch the boy's have a dip. Have a beer with some mates n watch some footy.
You get a much stronger appreciation for the supporters of clubs like the saints n doggies.
Sport is about socialisation and tribalism. Not winning.
But it does feel's so much better when you get back to having a sniff of being decent. You do appreciate it more.
BluesBloke said:
I went to the Rich - Geelong game when we were thrashed - sat right through the game and refused to leave - I copped heaps - sadly from club members like Carlton and others - I didn't like it and it did hurt. And those same people rang me up when Carlton won that 2013 EF and rubbed it in - that hurt more.
So my view is when I now talk to other club members when they are being thrashed, like Carlton now, all I say is I know what it is like and you have to hang tough.
Strangely, but not surprisingly, they don't ring to discuss footy these days - which again I think is just as weak, if not worse - hate fair weather supporters - and my saints doggie mates (even pies supporters) happily talk footy regardless of how they are going.
Sorry BB, Carlton and Ess supporters don't hang tough
Gee Motlop has been amazing last month, almost same time his contract has come up in media discussion, BOG by fair at close to HT
