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Rance
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lamb22 said:
I'm happy to give him more time down back - he has played HOW many games?!?!?
Disagree on some of your list too. Edwards has failed to cement a senior spot, and has often been a man looking for a position. Connors don't give a damn. Jack has taken some time to get his act consistent (and still is not there IMO).
Tiger74 said:
Read my post again T74. I dont say that my list have made it just that they are worth persevering with. Connors a prime example of a kid with talent who may not make it.
Vickery and Post however have already shown more than Rance. They show they can take a mark and have footy smarts. Doesn't mean they will dominate in years to come but they are good signs.
Rance has shown endeavour, athleticism, courage and a work ethic. l Dont think that is enough but time will tell.
lamb22 said:
Vickery and Post are better players than Rance, so not surprisingly they are showing more.
As for Rance, you say time will tell, but you want him gone after 1 season of seeing some games in the seniors. Thats not giving a heck of a lot of time for it to tell us anything.
Agree. Deficient footballer. We should try ship him off to the Eagles or Fremantle before his stocks drop.
Tiger74 said:
I've been watching him for two years. If he cant be competitive against a tall forward there is no spot for him in the side. He's got the physical tools but not the smarts. That's usually terminal. Refer JON!
PS Post went at 27 and Rance at 18.
lamb22 said:
aware Post went later, but that doesn't mean he ain't a better player
You now equate Rance to JON? What did Rance do, not sign your jumper or steal your girl, because you are writing off a young tall on SFA development time.
the mind boggles lamby. he is 195cm 20 yo old in his second year in the system and has played 8 or 9 games and you're happy to write him off. i thought you were nuts when you crapped on about how "elite" pettifer was all those years ago and now i know it
btw he is an "elite" trainer
btw he is an "elite" trainer
Rance definitely has some concerns, and unfortunately kicking is one of them. I don't like players that can't kick.
Rance is tall, has a good engine, is courageous and moves well.
With good conditioning, he will develop core strength to hold his position in a contest and with good coaching his execution will improve. He is 19 - probably a long way ahead of where the likes of Moore & Thursty were at a similar age. (I know I am not exactly comparing him to Silvagni and Scarlett, but let's give the kid at least 1-2 more years.)
With good conditioning, he will develop core strength to hold his position in a contest and with good coaching his execution will improve. He is 19 - probably a long way ahead of where the likes of Moore & Thursty were at a similar age. (I know I am not exactly comparing him to Silvagni and Scarlett, but let's give the kid at least 1-2 more years.)
