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Prime Minister Poll
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U2Tigers said:
Again, I think you are wrong.
Whether you want to believe it or not, I dislike both party leaders. But Abbott makes it very easy for everyone to ridicule him because he's hopeless in front of a cameras. It's one of the main reasons why I NEVER want him to be a Prime Minister. He's either stupid or inarticulate. Neither are a good attribute to have as a Prime Minister. The fact there are so many posts pointing our Abbott's gaffes are because Abbott makes them. Less so about Gillard because she's more stage managed, which is another problem in that she comes across as a mouth piece for the party, not a true leader. She rarely makes gaffes because everything she says is scripted.
She does fall over a lot though.
Liverpool said:
Actually I remember you saying lots of things mostly around stone age cultures, humpies, people drinking themselves to death and being forced to move away from their traditional lands and to cities where they can better integrate.
Any of that ringing any bells?
Azza said:
Why does it have to be so complicated though.
I think his saying there should be more representation from members of the indigenous people from remote areas in politics. IMO hats off to him for saying that. Hes actually wanting the best for those people.
Because I do think there is a difference, I congratulate him on it. It a gaffe to some, but not to me.
If everyone had to not say something as it may offend someone else, the world would be a very quiet place.
Baloo said:
thats fair eough.
maybe I just didn't really understand this thread was purely a thread on their gaffes.
I do agree Abbott, has shot himself in the foot a few times, I also will add I reckon his advisors mustn't be doing their jobs properly, or hes to strong a character to listen to advice.
U2Tigers said:
Its only a "gaffe" to the people who want it to be a gaffe though.....if Gillard had said exactly those same words, the same people on here would be applauding her for thinking of Aborigines and their constituents and getting a cross-section of their people involved in politics.
U2Tigers said:
If he'd said exactly that, there'd be no problem. In fact he'd likely to have won a fair few brownie points among the wets. But he didn't, he chose to contrast Anderson with Hasluck. A stupid thing to do that only caused problems. Can't you see the idiocy?
Exactly - it's not what he meant that was the gaffe, it was the way he chose to explain what he was thinking that made it a gaffe. There's nothing wrong at all in wanting more indigenous representation in parliament, and from central/northern Australia, but to compare the two politicians was just dumb.
Liverpool said:
Still no response on Gillard gaffes? Hmm. So true to form Livers tries to shift the subject to something he wants to talk about.....any chance you are actually Piers Akerman? There is none...read 'em ZERO...evidentiary accounts to back up yours and The Australians assertion that Gillard is implicated in actual fraud. She challenged the Aus journalist yesterday who tried to bring it up again they were left flat footed, yet again. Pontificate and obfuscate and conflate your little socks off, but without proof you and your cohort are pissing in the wind. And all the while Abbott's thought bubbles are becoming lead balloons around the LNP's neck. I feel a Christopher Pyne challenge coming on....
He can't post it because he knows it contains just the same un-substantiated guff that the Aus has been peddling for years. (The same method it used to undermine the Police Chief Commissioner here in Melbourne), including a retraction from a key witness. This story has been so toxic that a journo lost his job over it (though Nikki Savva thinks it had only "one" word out of place - really Nikki? He lost his job over ONE word?)Azza said:
Azza said:
in this instance this is the point.
many disagree with a lot of what Abbott says, but even when they dont he still causes grief by his inability to articulate. one of the articles had a spokesman explaing what Abbott really meant. perhaps if he had of said what he really meant their wouldnt be an issue. like if he said what he really meant when he said Gillard should be in Indonesia meeting SBY, like when he said.......... the list goes on.
