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Pick 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
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Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Craig, while I have a vague recollection of poor decision-making or disposal by Gysberts when he played a lot of games in 2011, I just looked at his stats on the AFL site.
For that 2011 season, wherre he had two Rising Star nominations, he averaged:
19.4 disposals (roughly 50/50 kicks to handballs)
72.2% Disposal Efficiency
1.8 Clangers
The two stats that I do remember about his game are:
4.3 tackles
3.8 Clearances
I do see him as probably a step up from Jackson but in the same mould and when you also put McKenzie in the same Melbourne team you are starting to get a bit top heavy with the same type.
BTW He should be playing this afternoon in the VFL final at 2:00 on ABC with Casey against Willy.
Craig, while I have a vague recollection of poor decision-making or disposal by Gysberts when he played a lot of games in 2011, I just looked at his stats on the AFL site.
For that 2011 season, wherre he had two Rising Star nominations, he averaged:
19.4 disposals (roughly 50/50 kicks to handballs)
72.2% Disposal Efficiency
1.8 Clangers
The two stats that I do remember about his game are:
4.3 tackles
3.8 Clearances
I do see him as probably a step up from Jackson but in the same mould and when you also put McKenzie in the same Melbourne team you are starting to get a bit top heavy with the same type.
BTW He should be playing this afternoon in the VFL final at 2:00 on ABC with Casey against Willy.
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Some fine Wines here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j5KXhssNEM
Some fine Wines here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j5KXhssNEM
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Yep you're right and I was wrong about the two nominations in the 2011 season.
He was nominated twice. He was nominated in his second of three games in 2010 and nominated again in his eighth game in 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Gysberts
Tigertool said:
Yep you're right and I was wrong about the two nominations in the 2011 season.
He was nominated twice. He was nominated in his second of three games in 2010 and nominated again in his eighth game in 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Gysberts
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
I invariably stay out of these discussions because I know next to nothing about the junior talent. I watched some of the National Championships but that is it.
This year my plea to RFC is that we go in a slightly different direction. Let's not go for solid citizen good allround footballers with all the higher picks, can we please try and recruit a player who has pace, runs with the ball and can do the exciting things that sometimes win you a game of football. I look at our midfield and I see a glaring deficiency in the Lewis Jetta/ Stephen Hill type player. I know it comes with some risks but we really need this type.
I invariably stay out of these discussions because I know next to nothing about the junior talent. I watched some of the National Championships but that is it.
This year my plea to RFC is that we go in a slightly different direction. Let's not go for solid citizen good allround footballers with all the higher picks, can we please try and recruit a player who has pace, runs with the ball and can do the exciting things that sometimes win you a game of football. I look at our midfield and I see a glaring deficiency in the Lewis Jetta/ Stephen Hill type player. I know it comes with some risks but we really need this type.
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Sounds like you want Garlett. Or even better, Jack Martin in the mini draft.
Sintiger said:
Sounds like you want Garlett. Or even better, Jack Martin in the mini draft.
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
I have no idea who I want Brissy because I don't know the players. I just see this as a deficiency of ours.BrisTiger24 said:
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Future in good Nick
From: Leader July 27, 2012
NICK Vlastuin attacks the pill as if getting there first will land him an AFL gig.
TAC cup footballer Nick Vlastuin will be drafted at season's end. Picture: Jason Edwards Source: Leader
And, while no circling scout will pluck a kid on one contest win, Vlastuin's white-hot competitiveness has thrust the Eltham North youngster firmly into the sights of AFL recruiters.
He will likely find himself at an AFL club by year's end, perhaps even as a top 10 pick.
As such, he would join the likes of Jack Grimes, Michael Hurley, Josh Caddy, Matthew Kreuzer and Billy Longer as products of the Northern Knights' development production line.
Vlastuin joined the local TAC Cup outfit as a 15-year-old, won an AIS-AFL scholarship after being crowned an All-Australian as an under-16 Vic Metro representative and received further All-Australian honours at the recently wrapped-up under-18 national carnival.
"It is a big year," Vlastuin said.
"It's been awesome so far. Winning the nationals was amazing and, although we're struggling a bit at the Knights, it's been all right.
"The main aim of the competition is development, and they are a lot more focused on that than winning."
While the Knights sit 12th on the TAC Cup table, Vlastuin, Nathan Hrovat and Matthew Haynes are likely to find their way into the elite system, and Vlastuin looms as the best of the crop.
A midfielder, tagged by Vic Metro coach Rohan Welsh as a Michael Voss-type of player, Vlastuin averaged 17 disposals at the recent nationals.
"I probably didn't have as a good a carnival as I'd have liked, but we won, which was the main thing," Vlastuin said.
Although Vlastuin wasn't about to volunteer an excuse, he did have one - a nagging ankle injury suffered in Round 4 against the Oakleigh Chargers.
"It wasn't ideal. I didn't train for about three weeks, and I'd keep getting up for games but then hurting it again," he said.
"It was just an ongoing, niggling type of injury."
Unlike the bulk of his contemporaries, Vlastuin is not juggling his final year of junior football with studies. He passed his VCE last year.
"It's definitely an advantage not to have the stresses of studying and exams," he said.
"I know Nathan (Hrovat) had his exams just a couple of weeks before nationals, so it's nice just to focus on footy."
Vlastuin won a university entrance but deferred it and is earning his keep as a part-time swimming pool lifeguard.
He can regularly be spied building his frame at a local gym with fellow Knight Sam Gilmore.
Vlastuin resists any discussion regarding the draft and, instead, insists landing on an AFL list is not the end of his journey, but only the beginning.
"I try not to think about it too much," he said.
"It's not a given, you still need to work hard to get there.
"The average AFL career is only a few seasons, so getting drafted doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be a superstar.
"The work only begins once you're there."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/localfooty/future-in-good-nick/story-fn53klc6-1226436992026
Future in good Nick
From: Leader July 27, 2012
NICK Vlastuin attacks the pill as if getting there first will land him an AFL gig.
TAC cup footballer Nick Vlastuin will be drafted at season's end. Picture: Jason Edwards Source: Leader
And, while no circling scout will pluck a kid on one contest win, Vlastuin's white-hot competitiveness has thrust the Eltham North youngster firmly into the sights of AFL recruiters.
He will likely find himself at an AFL club by year's end, perhaps even as a top 10 pick.
As such, he would join the likes of Jack Grimes, Michael Hurley, Josh Caddy, Matthew Kreuzer and Billy Longer as products of the Northern Knights' development production line.
Vlastuin joined the local TAC Cup outfit as a 15-year-old, won an AIS-AFL scholarship after being crowned an All-Australian as an under-16 Vic Metro representative and received further All-Australian honours at the recently wrapped-up under-18 national carnival.
"It is a big year," Vlastuin said.
"It's been awesome so far. Winning the nationals was amazing and, although we're struggling a bit at the Knights, it's been all right.
"The main aim of the competition is development, and they are a lot more focused on that than winning."
While the Knights sit 12th on the TAC Cup table, Vlastuin, Nathan Hrovat and Matthew Haynes are likely to find their way into the elite system, and Vlastuin looms as the best of the crop.
A midfielder, tagged by Vic Metro coach Rohan Welsh as a Michael Voss-type of player, Vlastuin averaged 17 disposals at the recent nationals.
"I probably didn't have as a good a carnival as I'd have liked, but we won, which was the main thing," Vlastuin said.
Although Vlastuin wasn't about to volunteer an excuse, he did have one - a nagging ankle injury suffered in Round 4 against the Oakleigh Chargers.
"It wasn't ideal. I didn't train for about three weeks, and I'd keep getting up for games but then hurting it again," he said.
"It was just an ongoing, niggling type of injury."
Unlike the bulk of his contemporaries, Vlastuin is not juggling his final year of junior football with studies. He passed his VCE last year.
"It's definitely an advantage not to have the stresses of studying and exams," he said.
"I know Nathan (Hrovat) had his exams just a couple of weeks before nationals, so it's nice just to focus on footy."
Vlastuin won a university entrance but deferred it and is earning his keep as a part-time swimming pool lifeguard.
He can regularly be spied building his frame at a local gym with fellow Knight Sam Gilmore.
Vlastuin resists any discussion regarding the draft and, instead, insists landing on an AFL list is not the end of his journey, but only the beginning.
"I try not to think about it too much," he said.
"It's not a given, you still need to work hard to get there.
"The average AFL career is only a few seasons, so getting drafted doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be a superstar.
"The work only begins once you're there."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/localfooty/future-in-good-nick/story-fn53klc6-1226436992026
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
I reckon Vlastuin is the one we should go for. He's pretty much a sure thing. If we want the dreaded x-factor ala Garlett then we can always go for more of a project player like Sumner/Warrell/Yarran later in the draft. I'd be more confident of our ability to develop players like this now with Williams on board... But it's still IMO too risky with Garlett. We absolutely HAVE to nail this draft if we're to challenge in the next few years.
I reckon Vlastuin is the one we should go for. He's pretty much a sure thing. If we want the dreaded x-factor ala Garlett then we can always go for more of a project player like Sumner/Warrell/Yarran later in the draft. I'd be more confident of our ability to develop players like this now with Williams on board... But it's still IMO too risky with Garlett. We absolutely HAVE to nail this draft if we're to challenge in the next few years.
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
i want toumpass his kicking technique is beautiful and all his team mates look for him for that reason. what could we give to get that high a pick maybe 2 or 4. pick 9 and what any ideas. especially after we cant offer up dean mcdonald anymore ;D
i want toumpass his kicking technique is beautiful and all his team mates look for him for that reason. what could we give to get that high a pick maybe 2 or 4. pick 9 and what any ideas. especially after we cant offer up dean mcdonald anymore ;D
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Jackson Macrae
Oakleigh Chargers 18 188 cm 75 kg
Kevin Sheehan says: “Versatile medium midfielder who can also go back or forward. Big improver this year and is a long left foot kick. Shows great courage in the air and at ground level in his attack on ball. Kicked six goals against Tasmania in an outstanding performance and averaged 19.4 disposals at 78.4 percent efficiency in the Under-18 Championships this year. Averaged 23 disposals in seven TAC Cup games to date this year.”
tigs2010 said:
Jackson Macrae
Oakleigh Chargers 18 188 cm 75 kg
Kevin Sheehan says: “Versatile medium midfielder who can also go back or forward. Big improver this year and is a long left foot kick. Shows great courage in the air and at ground level in his attack on ball. Kicked six goals against Tasmania in an outstanding performance and averaged 19.4 disposals at 78.4 percent efficiency in the Under-18 Championships this year. Averaged 23 disposals in seven TAC Cup games to date this year.”
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Interesting idea.
Do we want Vlastuin?
If so, where would he go.
Remember quite a few years ago thinking Jordan Lewis would last until our pick 12.
In retrospect, we should have taken him with our pick 4.
Conversely, a couple of years later, we thought that we could trade our pick 8 for a ready made defender and still get our preferred 1st pick Reiwoldt.
That one came off.
Except, the ready made defender wasn't that good.
Electric is the Love said:
Interesting idea.
Do we want Vlastuin?
If so, where would he go.
Remember quite a few years ago thinking Jordan Lewis would last until our pick 12.
In retrospect, we should have taken him with our pick 4.
Conversely, a couple of years later, we thought that we could trade our pick 8 for a ready made defender and still get our preferred 1st pick Reiwoldt.
That one came off.
Except, the ready made defender wasn't that good.
Re: Pic 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
Let's not get cute, best midfielder on the board at all three picks.
Sam Mayes has a bit of the Jack Darling's about him. Dominate the carnival as a bottom ager and get picked apart by the experts at the next carnival. The more time a kid spends in front of the experts the more faults that are found in him.
I think Mayes, could be getting a rough ride.
Let's not get cute, best midfielder on the board at all three picks.
Sam Mayes has a bit of the Jack Darling's about him. Dominate the carnival as a bottom ager and get picked apart by the experts at the next carnival. The more time a kid spends in front of the experts the more faults that are found in him.
I think Mayes, could be getting a rough ride.
