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Pick 29: Shai Bolton
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Yep we are actually underselling - 10.,11 and 19 for Bolton and a premiership thanks Freo.
Even knowing the vomitous rubbish being smeared around by the ‘media’ is what it is, it’s easy to be affected after being bombarded day after day. I’d be giving something back in your scenario but 10 and 11 is a bargain.Yep we are actually underselling - 10.,11 and 19 for Bolton and a premiership thanks Freo.
While the Tigers have been painted as stubborn in their positioning, the fact remains Bolton is a player with four years to run on a contract, albeit one who has reasons to request a move home to Western Australia.
Conceding so early in negotiations would make little sense, especially when they know how valuable Bolton will be for Fremantle.
The Dockers' list build so far has left them in a position where they have the ability to pay a high price for Bolton, even if it means finding middle ground between the clubs' respective positions.
They would also be following the path of recent premiers who have taken risks at the trade table to fill the remaining gaps on their lists, giving them the crucial edge over rivals.
Brisbane is a perfect example and can point to Western Bulldogs' premiership player Josh Dunkley, ex-Docker Lachie Neale, and former Adelaide forward Charlie Cameron as premiership heroes who were secured for a premium to fill needs.
Joe Daniher during the Grand Final between Sydney and Brisbane at the MCG, September 28, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Former Essendon forward Joe Daniher arrived as a restricted free agent, while premiership players Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast) and Darcy Fort (Geelong) were bargain trades that delivered when it mattered most.
All up, the Lions secured five of their premiership 23 via trades for a total cost of five first-round picks and a combination of later selections.
ANALYSIS
How your club fared in close games as record broken again
Giving up those picks was a risk worth taking for Brisbane, just like it was for Collingwood, Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond before them, who all rounded out their lists with successful, if costly, trades.
The key for those teams has been getting the right players at the right time, and it is why Bolton makes so much sense for Fremantle, which needed a better scoreboard return from its small forwards in 2024.
00:50
Mar 9 2024
Bolton's All-Australian season came in 2022 when he booted 43 goals and averaged 17.5 disposals in a Richmond team that won 13 games and lost an elimination final to Brisbane.
That goal tally would have ranked him No.2 at Fremantle in 2024, just behind star key forward Josh Treacy (45) and ahead of sidekick Jye Amiss (36). It's reasonable to expect he can deliver at that level in a team that is contending.
NEWS
Dockers winger axed as off-season changes continue
The 25-year-old's fast feet at stoppages will then complement star trio Caleb Serong, Hayden Young and Andrew Brayshaw, who can create room in the centre square through their own ability to rotate forward.
While multiple player exits in each of the past two off-seasons set the Dockers back, they also contributed to the opportunity the club has this year with picks No.10, 11 and 18.
Justin Longmuir during Fremantle's clash with Hawthorn in round 18, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Those exits have also coincided with the key arrivals of forward/ruck Luke Jackson, wingman and pre-season selection Jeremy Sharp and the earlier addition of half-back Jordan Clark from rival clubs.
Negotiating hard until you can get the best available deal for your club is the job of a list manager, and it is right to say the Tigers' demands of pick No.10 and 11 in a first-round that clubs are desperate to climb into is over the top.
But compromising and settling on some middle ground can still be a win for Fremantle if that's what it comes to late in the Trade Period. It could be the last in a series of moves that helps the club win its first premiership.
Conceding so early in negotiations would make little sense, especially when they know how valuable Bolton will be for Fremantle.
The Dockers' list build so far has left them in a position where they have the ability to pay a high price for Bolton, even if it means finding middle ground between the clubs' respective positions.
They would also be following the path of recent premiers who have taken risks at the trade table to fill the remaining gaps on their lists, giving them the crucial edge over rivals.
Brisbane is a perfect example and can point to Western Bulldogs' premiership player Josh Dunkley, ex-Docker Lachie Neale, and former Adelaide forward Charlie Cameron as premiership heroes who were secured for a premium to fill needs.
Joe Daniher during the Grand Final between Sydney and Brisbane at the MCG, September 28, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Former Essendon forward Joe Daniher arrived as a restricted free agent, while premiership players Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast) and Darcy Fort (Geelong) were bargain trades that delivered when it mattered most.
All up, the Lions secured five of their premiership 23 via trades for a total cost of five first-round picks and a combination of later selections.
ANALYSIS
How your club fared in close games as record broken again
Giving up those picks was a risk worth taking for Brisbane, just like it was for Collingwood, Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond before them, who all rounded out their lists with successful, if costly, trades.
The key for those teams has been getting the right players at the right time, and it is why Bolton makes so much sense for Fremantle, which needed a better scoreboard return from its small forwards in 2024.
00:50
Mar 9 2024
Bolton’s pair sparks Tigers’ fightback
Shai Bolton nails these two goals during the third term to continue his side’s comebackBolton's All-Australian season came in 2022 when he booted 43 goals and averaged 17.5 disposals in a Richmond team that won 13 games and lost an elimination final to Brisbane.
That goal tally would have ranked him No.2 at Fremantle in 2024, just behind star key forward Josh Treacy (45) and ahead of sidekick Jye Amiss (36). It's reasonable to expect he can deliver at that level in a team that is contending.
NEWS
Dockers winger axed as off-season changes continue
The 25-year-old's fast feet at stoppages will then complement star trio Caleb Serong, Hayden Young and Andrew Brayshaw, who can create room in the centre square through their own ability to rotate forward.
While multiple player exits in each of the past two off-seasons set the Dockers back, they also contributed to the opportunity the club has this year with picks No.10, 11 and 18.
Justin Longmuir during Fremantle's clash with Hawthorn in round 18, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Those exits have also coincided with the key arrivals of forward/ruck Luke Jackson, wingman and pre-season selection Jeremy Sharp and the earlier addition of half-back Jordan Clark from rival clubs.
Negotiating hard until you can get the best available deal for your club is the job of a list manager, and it is right to say the Tigers' demands of pick No.10 and 11 in a first-round that clubs are desperate to climb into is over the top.
But compromising and settling on some middle ground can still be a win for Fremantle if that's what it comes to late in the Trade Period. It could be the last in a series of moves that helps the club win its first premiership.
This just makes me want to keep Bolton even more.While the Tigers have been painted as stubborn in their positioning, the fact remains Bolton is a player with four years to run on a contract, albeit one who has reasons to request a move home to Western Australia.
Conceding so early in negotiations would make little sense, especially when they know how valuable Bolton will be for Fremantle.
The Dockers' list build so far has left them in a position where they have the ability to pay a high price for Bolton, even if it means finding middle ground between the clubs' respective positions.
They would also be following the path of recent premiers who have taken risks at the trade table to fill the remaining gaps on their lists, giving them the crucial edge over rivals.
Brisbane is a perfect example and can point to Western Bulldogs' premiership player Josh Dunkley, ex-Docker Lachie Neale, and former Adelaide forward Charlie Cameron as premiership heroes who were secured for a premium to fill needs.
Joe Daniher during the Grand Final between Sydney and Brisbane at the MCG, September 28, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Former Essendon forward Joe Daniher arrived as a restricted free agent, while premiership players Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast) and Darcy Fort (Geelong) were bargain trades that delivered when it mattered most.
All up, the Lions secured five of their premiership 23 via trades for a total cost of five first-round picks and a combination of later selections.
ANALYSIS
How your club fared in close games as record broken again
Giving up those picks was a risk worth taking for Brisbane, just like it was for Collingwood, Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond before them, who all rounded out their lists with successful, if costly, trades.
The key for those teams has been getting the right players at the right time, and it is why Bolton makes so much sense for Fremantle, which needed a better scoreboard return from its small forwards in 2024.
00:50
Mar 9 2024
Bolton’s pair sparks Tigers’ fightback
Shai Bolton nails these two goals during the third term to continue his side’s comeback
Bolton's All-Australian season came in 2022 when he booted 43 goals and averaged 17.5 disposals in a Richmond team that won 13 games and lost an elimination final to Brisbane.
That goal tally would have ranked him No.2 at Fremantle in 2024, just behind star key forward Josh Treacy (45) and ahead of sidekick Jye Amiss (36). It's reasonable to expect he can deliver at that level in a team that is contending.
NEWS
Dockers winger axed as off-season changes continue
The 25-year-old's fast feet at stoppages will then complement star trio Caleb Serong, Hayden Young and Andrew Brayshaw, who can create room in the centre square through their own ability to rotate forward.
While multiple player exits in each of the past two off-seasons set the Dockers back, they also contributed to the opportunity the club has this year with picks No.10, 11 and 18.
Justin Longmuir during Fremantle's clash with Hawthorn in round 18, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos
Those exits have also coincided with the key arrivals of forward/ruck Luke Jackson, wingman and pre-season selection Jeremy Sharp and the earlier addition of half-back Jordan Clark from rival clubs.
Negotiating hard until you can get the best available deal for your club is the job of a list manager, and it is right to say the Tigers' demands of pick No.10 and 11 in a first-round that clubs are desperate to climb into is over the top.
But compromising and settling on some middle ground can still be a win for Fremantle if that's what it comes to late in the Trade Period. It could be the last in a series of moves that helps the club win its first premiership.
Hits the nail on the head.
Freo would be mad not to pay up.
Same for the Suns and Rioli.
Big week coming up for Blair and the club.
Agree it is a bargain vs the obvious tangible benefit. This whole narrative what a great draft 2024 it is, is a furphy, you never know how good a draft is until 5 years later. You know exactly how good Bolton is today. How good Rioli is. How good Baker its. List managers in Free and Gold Coast will be shooting themselves in the foot if they are holding out on a measly 8 position in the draft or one addition draft pick that is over 10 for proven players in their prime - the Free and GC list managers are not playing strategically. You hesitate and hold out too long the opportunity passes you by or someone else snaps it up.
You look at Freo and it's hard to see the reluctance here. Bolton will slot in and be the best small forward and likely second best midfielder.
Then there is the posturing and tantrums over pick 10 and 11. We payed very similar for Tarranto and Hopper (less similar).
Then there is the posturing and tantrums over pick 10 and 11. We payed very similar for Tarranto and Hopper (less similar).
Yeah everyone wants the extra prawns but who’s gonna pay for them?
Shooting themselves in the foot here.
Shooting themselves in the foot here.
More in it for them to get him than the cost of not getting him.
They will pay massive overs we just have to wait it out.
They’ve probably already emotionally attached to getting him so and their fan base will be spewing if they don’t.
They will pay massive overs we just have to wait it out.
They’ve probably already emotionally attached to getting him so and their fan base will be spewing if they don’t.
Only players who have put up 400+ disposals and 40+ goals in a season in the last 5 years:
Isaac Heeney (2022), Toby Greene (2023), Shai Bolton (2022)
Only players who have put up 500+ disposals and 30+ goals in a season in the last 5 years:
Isaac Heeney & Chad Warner (2024), Shai Bolton (2023)
Isaac Heeney (2022), Toby Greene (2023), Shai Bolton (2022)
Only players who have put up 500+ disposals and 30+ goals in a season in the last 5 years:
Isaac Heeney & Chad Warner (2024), Shai Bolton (2023)
Imagine if the other 2 were on the market! There would be no carry on re 2 first rounders
Both Freo and Suns knew what they were chasing when they started whispering sweet nothings to them.
Knew they were both contract, big contracts.
They knew what both players will bring to their chances next year, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing the chasing.
Enough of the subterfuge from both of these minnow clubs and start to
Knew they were both contract, big contracts.
They knew what both players will bring to their chances next year, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing the chasing.
Enough of the subterfuge from both of these minnow clubs and start to
Don't forget who he gets to rove to. Jackson Darcy and especially Treacy. He literally could win them the flag.
I've seen a couple of things on face ache from a "flagmantle" supporter & I pee'd myself laughing. Flagmantle, Flagmantle for petesake. You haven't won one in your 30 year existence & your dopey club is dithering & faffing about trading for probably the key player needed to take the next step.
Pay up or p off you insignificant bunch of tossers.
Pay up or p off you insignificant bunch of tossers.
