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Neil Craig

Interesting Jimmy.

In the article you quote he is "Director of Sports Performance".
in the post quoted before he was "head of the club's football department".

I note that in the Age article
"Richmond wants Craig in a pure coaching role as senior assistant to Damien Hardwick."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eades-hat-in-ring-for-pies-as-coach-shuffle-continues-20110928-1kxcc.html#ixzz1ZJRl49KX

If that was case then I'm not surprised he chose the Melbourne job which seems a much better fit for him and what we thought Richmond was offering.

I now worry that Tigerbob's mention of a "boys club" in the fitness area is true and limiting improvement while we improve the coaching area with Smith.
Tigerbob said:
I am. He is part of the cancer at this club. How he has survived since 2000 or whatever is a miracle. Only at Richmond. Boys club.
 
RedanTiger said:
Interesting Jimmy.

In the article you quote he is "Director of Sports Performance".
in the post quoted before he was "head of the club's football department".

I note that in the Age article
"Richmond wants Craig in a pure coaching role as senior assistant to Damien Hardwick."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eades-hat-in-ring-for-pies-as-coach-shuffle-continues-20110928-1kxcc.html#ixzz1ZJRl49KX

If that was case then I'm not surprised he chose the Melbourne job which seems a much better fit for him and what we thought Richmond was offering.

I now worry that Tigerbob's mention of a "boys club" in the fitness area is true and limiting improvement while we improve the coaching area with Smith.

It was reported that he was going to do every job from the CEO to the boot studder at the RFC by the media! Wouldn't read much into what is reported above.
 
RedanTiger said:
I now worry that Tigerbob's mention of a "boys club" in the fitness area is true and limiting improvement while we improve the coaching area with Smith.

Benny from the Players association.
Beavis from Hawthorn, Port and Essendon
Lade from Port
Leppa from the Lions
Daily from Port
Cameron from Melbourne

With that range of people from different clubs in our footy dept, do you really think any under performing "boys club" could survive and pull the wool over everyone's eyes ?

If it's obvious to us that we've been very light for a long time, don't you think it's also obvious to our footy dept ? Wouldn't it have been one of the first questions all the new coaches asked ?

To believe that Hornsby leads a "boys club" and is able to fool everyone else is to believe the RFC is staffed by incompetent people through the organisation.

If I had to believe that, I'd stop caring.
 
It's all speculation anyway.

Were we even interested in Craig.

Ross Smith has a steely resolve about him.Good get Richmond!
 
Barnzy said:
Looks like the sort of role we wanted him for. Sports performance. They also have Misson, we have Hornsby.

Waste of money if that is the role he is doing. They are doubling up with Misson and Craig, too many chiefs, not enough indians.

Misson is the equal of Craig in sports performance anyway. Not sure what they wanted Craig for.
 
Leysy Days said:
Funny how Craigs stocks automatically fall because he didnt choose us.

I'm not one of those but there has been plenty of criticism of Craig ever since the rumour was floated, it hasn't just started today.
 
Baloo said:
Benny from the Players association.
Beavis from Hawthorn, Port and Essendon
Lade from Port
Leppa from the Lions
Daily from Port
Cameron from Melbourne

With that range of people from different clubs in our footy dept, do you really think any under performing "boys club" could survive and pull the wool over everyone's eyes ?
If it's obvious to us that we've been very light for a long time, don't you think it's also obvious to our footy dept ? Wouldn't it have been one of the first questions all the new coaches asked ?
To believe that Hornsby leads a "boys club" and is able to fool everyone else is to believe the RFC is staffed by incompetent people through the organisation.
You've mentioned the CEO, senior coaching staff and The Football Manager. None of the off-field staff that my post was about. Is that done deliberately to misdirect?

2009 - Benny appointed by the board as CEO, Beavis/Lade/Leppa/Daly/Hartley appointed as a coaching package. Newett and Clarke as Development coaches.

2005 - Jackson appointed by Miller in recruiting
2007 - Cameron appointed by Miller as List Manager, promoted to GM of Football in 2008
2008 - appointed by Cameron were Wayne Campbell, Terry Condon, Ross Monaghan, Brendan Fahrner and (I think) Kim Stephens.
As quoted from my previous post which sourced Tigerbob, Hornsby has been there since around 2000.

Despite what a new coach may ask, his resources are decided by the GM of Football.
If we have been light for a long time why has the only change since 2008 been the addition of a weights coach?
Why does the "boys club" have to be LED by Hornsby? If any person is in a "boys club" it is for mutual protection for under-performance and extends through many layers of an organisation.
Under-performance in areas like list management, recruiting, strength and conditioning, psychological development, rehabilitation which are intermingled.
The old question of what's to blame for failure while people in these areas are able to point the finger at each other to cloud their responsibilities.
 
skybeau said:
Meh, if he would prefer to work at an administrative basketcase like Melbourne, then good luck to him.

Yep specially as it seems to be a similar position to what we reportedly offered, it really looks like he hasn't done his homework on the clubs.
 
Pity, Craig would have been a nice fit. Melbourne makes sense though with such a rookie coach.

Looks like it will have to be Malthouse as Dimma's mentor now! ;D
 
obviously the Dees have a truckload of coin...all those debt rallies worked...

debt free now and ready to splurge...letys hope they have spent wisely...
 
tigers80 said:
obviously the Dees have a truckload of coin...all those debt rallies worked...

debt free now and ready to splurge...letys hope they have spent wisely...

Could just hold another one if they *smile* up :p
 
tigs2010 said:
Could just hold another one if they *smile* up :p

are they known to throw money in again? might mean no updating of the new Range Rover

would they have been able to do this without JS as Prez highly unlikely...

without him this club would be rooted...
 
IanG said:
Yep specially as it seems to be a similar position to what we reportedly offered, it really looks like he hasn't done his homework on the clubs.

Perhaps he has indeed done his homework.