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Neil Craig
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tigertime2 said:
Yeah I heard him say on SEN that was one of the reasons he chose Melbourne!!
How childish!
Neil Craig would have been a good get but let's not forget that for all his supposed Sports Science background he had his playing list revolt against him a couple of years back because he was over-training them. Once he eased back their performances improved markedly.
The injury record at the crows wasn't that great either
The injury record at the crows wasn't that great either
IanG said:
I agree Ian, Pro Neil Cragers I would love to hear why his credentials are so highly regarded, and I'm not looking to shoot anyone down either - just genuinely interested. I don't know Neil Craig, I assume he's a great guy and knows his footy, however as an outsider I can only look at his record as the crows senior coach and it's hardly a great one.
Let's not cry about this guy, we owe G.Lyon a beer.
I rather have Harvey and that's saying something.
Don't forget he wasnt going to come cheap. 5 clubs were chasing him, so his value went through the roof.
I wouldn't be surprised if his on more now then when he was coaching the crows.
As a coach he was a dud, I don't know what "high performance" means. All I know is that we need to continue with the recruiting of kids and building a side to get us back in the 8.
He would've made no difference.
I rather have Harvey and that's saying something.
Don't forget he wasnt going to come cheap. 5 clubs were chasing him, so his value went through the roof.
I wouldn't be surprised if his on more now then when he was coaching the crows.
As a coach he was a dud, I don't know what "high performance" means. All I know is that we need to continue with the recruiting of kids and building a side to get us back in the 8.
He would've made no difference.
RedanTiger said:
To believe there is a "boys club" in the fitness department would mean you believe those directly involved and interacting with the fitness department, i.e. the Football Dept of the Club, would need to be either in on the gig or completely incompetent.
I don't believe our new coaching team are in on any fitness dept boys club. I also don't believe they are completely incompetent.
Hence, I don't believe there is a boys club operating within our fitness dept.
Baloo said:
What?
A "boys club" MEANS that there is a clique or group WITHIN the Football Dept.
Maybe some leaders of the Football dept are incompetent or part of the "club". Is that beyond belief?
I don't believe our new coaching team are in on any fitness dept boys club. I also don't believe they are completely incompetent. Agreed.
They don't decide on other parts of the football department. They can only make changes to their section - like Hartley or Smith.
My original post said I was worried about Tigerbob statement that there is a "boys club" at Richmond may be correct.
Strange how you didn't make any argument about his post but only about me re-posting it and saying I was worried he was correct?
Maybe there's a "boys club" on this site?
Yes, within the football dept, specifically in the fitness and conditioning dept.
My point is that our new coaching group, led by Beavis, who's careers are at stake here, would not allow incompetence to go on for 2 years now. It directly effects their ability to produce what they have been tasked to produce so they would be all over any boys club masking incompetence.
I chose to reply to you because I felt the effort to do so wouldn't be wasted. If you'd rather I didn't then just let me know.
My point is that our new coaching group, led by Beavis, who's careers are at stake here, would not allow incompetence to go on for 2 years now. It directly effects their ability to produce what they have been tasked to produce so they would be all over any boys club masking incompetence.
I chose to reply to you because I felt the effort to do so wouldn't be wasted. If you'd rather I didn't then just let me know.
JR8 said:
Looks like cage fighter Randy Couture.
Heard from someone who has coached with him...really rates him, great teacher and great tactical nous. Said he never harboured hopes of being a senior coach. Thinks it is a great pick up.
Tiger_4_Life said:
I won't say Craig can't coach, but in six completed seasons and two part-seasons, he failed to prove conclusively that he could. He inherited a side with a number of very good/great mature players, plus some genuine talent that was ready to make its mark. While it wasn't a perfect list, more than once the Crows looked the team to beat during the h&a season, only to drop games and never regain top form when Craig ran them into the ground at the two-thirds mark as part of his master plan to be at their peak for the finals. After the stars retired and Craig faced the task of paring back the list, he left unanswered questions over his willingness and ability to play and develop youth.
Of course, this is a superficial opinion formed from a long way away, and certainly I think Hardwick could do with an experienced hand to lend advice. Also reckon it has to be someone who accepts that his senior coaching days are over, which may be the case with Craig.
Craigs methods worked well over 10 years ago, speak to any Adelaide supporter and ask them how they felt about Craig running his team into the ground and the massive amount of soft tissue injuries due to Craigs heavy training load.
I find it more inspiring that the club hasn't gotten into a pissing contest with other clubs, we are targeting people that we want, Ross has better credentials then a lot of other assistant coaches on the market and we signed him up to a 3 year deal without the media circus and pissing contest.
Until Melbourne can rid themselves of cancers such as Royal, Rawlings, Schwabb and Connoly I cant see them going very far.
Our Coaching panel are all Premiership players/coaches who have been in the system for a very very long time.
I find it more inspiring that the club hasn't gotten into a pissing contest with other clubs, we are targeting people that we want, Ross has better credentials then a lot of other assistant coaches on the market and we signed him up to a 3 year deal without the media circus and pissing contest.
Until Melbourne can rid themselves of cancers such as Royal, Rawlings, Schwabb and Connoly I cant see them going very far.
Our Coaching panel are all Premiership players/coaches who have been in the system for a very very long time.
I'm not convinced that winning a premiership was a major consideration in Craig's choice. One thing I noticed in his press conference was his reference to the Melbourne role being a good fit for "him".
I'm also not convinced that he was the mastermind behind the Crows 97/98 comebacks and flags as has been suggested.
Found wanting to some degree as a gameday coach also.
Appears as though our $ offer was somewhat token if we weren't prepared to match/beat the bigger offers.
I'm also not convinced that he was the mastermind behind the Crows 97/98 comebacks and flags as has been suggested.
Found wanting to some degree as a gameday coach also.
Appears as though our $ offer was somewhat token if we weren't prepared to match/beat the bigger offers.
Maybe we probably couldn't afford to match/beat the bigger offers, would be interesting to know what the $ hes on are.
Think he would have been a great get for us but we caught a nice sized fish from the Hawks ;D thank you very much.
Think he would have been a great get for us but we caught a nice sized fish from the Hawks ;D thank you very much.
Wow!MightyTiger said:
Jade Rawlings, the cancer within the Dees footy dept they didn't even know they had. He's only just signed on and might not even have finished packing his suitcase to come home from Brisvegas, yet he's already secretly destroying the Dees.
Melbourne offered more money, that's why they are a better fit for him.
Dodged a bullet I reckon, don't know what all the hype about him was...
Dodged a bullet I reckon, don't know what all the hype about him was...
Summerisle said:
Of course it's a good fit, they made up the role to suit him! Most organisations decide on the role they need then look for a person to suit, they have done this the other way round.
Melbourne really are making this up as they go.
Super9Nova said:
Business connections? Thought occurred to me also. Citing Melbourne being the oldest club as one of his reasons rang a bit hollow.
