btoz_01 said:Want Nankervis to be unleashed against Carlscums Kreuzer
Im sold as well great pick up
bullus_hit said:Give me Hampson over Graham any day of the week.
leon said:Re the Hammer; all we seem to know is he has a back problem. Not details re nature or specifics, how long he'll be out, recovery etc. Probably from carrying our rucks last year. So, once again, it's really sensitive of you not to 'bag' him!
leon said:What! I thought Hampton played really well; liked his game!
Oh! Hang on ... you're referring to Hampson?
Sheesh - "... possibly the worst player I've seen pull on our slash." If that's the case you sure haven't been around very long or seen very much! But you're welcome to your opinion. Lucky you're not 'one to bag our players' though.
I'm rapt with Nank - just go and look at my posts re him. Great debut game too. I've just been wary of some posters going over the top prematurely or expecting him to set the world on fire immediately. That's been the case with some other 'Messiahs' that just couldn't measure up.
He's only a relatively young ruckman who is nowhere near his prime even yet. But it's only one JLT Cup game. Long way to go; he will be more tested going up against the Gawns, Goldsteins and Sandilands of AFL Giants-world. But the signs are really good so far.
Re the Hammer; all we seem to know is he has a back problem. Not details re nature or specifics, how long he'll be out, recovery etc. Probably from carrying our rucks last year. So, once again, it's really sensitive of you not to 'bag' him!
But think you might see Nank and the Hammer play in tandem at times in '17, depending on this injury problem. Think it will be a really interesting combo against certain teams, and really required. I even suspect both of them might play better for the support. Hammer won't have to carry virtually the whole load; both will be freed up more e.g. Nank could drift forward and create some mayhem. Needs to work on his kicking though.
So, we'll see what transpires. It was great to see Eevan do some good things out there, but not quite convinced he's up to it all season yet.
I think you are underselling Hammer because he is better than Graham, Browne, Marsh and Knobeleasy said:c'mon '74. we had some shockers through the 90's.
Velvet Hammer wouldnt even be emergency in our worst side for the last 30 years.
He wouldnt even be emergency in the 2nds
easy said:how you coping with The Midget these days?
I am not defending hammer as first ruck, it is pretty well documented on this site I don't rate him. He is however an upgrade on some of those before him !!!Tigertough1974 said:As i said possibly, in saying that after 3 straight finals you look to improve your team and we put hammer in which IMO significantly weakened our team from prior year..
I could be wrong but none of the above ruck man were 1st ruck for significant periods let alone a whole season? maybe Strawbs O'Dwyer, Browne certainly not, Graham played 48 games in like 6 or so seasons, and knobel only 21 in 3 seasons....
I put hammer as a first ruck as awful, non of those really got the chance whether injury or form, each to their own though..
Back to topic, Nankers, he is everything hammer isn't, aggressive, good around ground, provides 2nd and 3rd efforts, or first efforts depending on how you see things..
Very impressive opener and at 22 will surely improve, great get RFC
Sintiger said:I am not defending hammer as first ruck, it is pretty well documented on this site I don't rate him. He is however an upgrade on some of those before him !!!
Sintiger said:I think you are underselling Hammer because he is better than Graham, Browne, Marsh and Knobel
We have a long list of failed rucks for sure, going all the way back to Strawbs O'Dwyer
leon said:Since you named them, and this is just rucks, you can go further - back to Richard Lounder. Look him up, back when KB coached us.
bullus_hit said:Lounder didn't even make it to the centre square, he was too unfit which is why he was eventually delisted. Worst number 1 pick in history.
bullus_hit said:Here's Lounder's debut, first glimpse at the 6 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu9FqNWuSYE
Tigertough1974 said:As i said possibly, in saying that after 3 straight finals you look to improve your team and we put hammer in which IMO significantly weakened our team from prior year..
I could be wrong but none of the above ruck man were 1st ruck for significant periods let alone a whole season? maybe Strawbs O'Dwyer, Browne certainly not, Graham played 48 games in like 6 or so seasons, and knobel only 21 in 3 seasons....
I put hammer as a first ruck as awful, non of those really got the chance whether injury or form, each to their own though..
Back to topic, Nankers, he is everything hammer isn't, aggressive, good around ground, provides 2nd and 3rd efforts, or first efforts depending on how you see things..
Very impressive opener and at 22 will surely improve, great get RFC