Matthew Clarke

[King Kong]

The likes of Miller, RCD, Ross , Dow, Cumberland, Martyn, Ralphsmith, Biggie and Ryan have found it hard to force their way into a very good side.
If the selected side against the Hawks is anything to go by, they will probably get more opportunities next season. We will then be able to get a better handle on how a lot of Clarke's draft picks stack up.

If they were good enough they would have played more games by now. Particularly those drafted in 2017 and 2018. Our picks from 2019 and 2020 haven't had much chance to play due to VFL shutdowns but the others have. What they've shown so far is not very impressive. Even Martyn, Ralphsmith look limited. While Miller, RCD and Ross look like back-up type players at best.

 

[tigerman]

If they were good enough they would have played more games by now. Particularly those drafted in 2017 and 2018. 2019 and 2020 haven't had much chance due to VFL shutdowns but the others have. What they've shown so far is not very impressive. Even Martyn, Ralphsmith look limited. Miller, RCD and Ross look top up players at best.

It's hard too dislodge premiership players, we will know more at the end of 2022.

 

[fastin bulbous]

Interesting in the podcast that Clarke seemed to hesitate when talking about chol and cj re trades and on trading our second pick

 

[nikolasmia]

Clarke is a pro, and basically said nothing.

All options are on the table.

later picks will be impacted on how we go with earlier picks

will love to trade up if we can

3 clear best players, then a blanket of others,


Athletic testing is yet to come in so our order not finalized

I was however very happy to hear that he rates the draft, and that he has seen enough of the Vic youngsters to be able to appraise them properly.

I think we are keeping our picks,

 

[zippadeee]

If they were good enough they would have played more games by now. Particularly those drafted in 2017 and 2018. Our picks from 2019 and 2020 haven't had much chance to play due to VFL shutdowns but the others have. What they've shown so far is not very impressive. Even Martyn, Ralphsmith look limited. While Miller, RCD and Ross look like back-up type players at best.

Besides a fluke pick here and there.
He hasnt hit gold with any high picks.
Losing him wouldn't bother me.
Huggins instead of Ryan, Talyor or Allen. Is sackable any way

 

[King Kong]

Clarke is a pro, and basically said nothing.

All options are on the table.

later picks will be impacted on how we go with earlier picks

will love to trade up if we can

3 clear best players, then a blanket of others,


Athletic testing is yet to come in so our order not finalized

I was however very happy to hear that he rates the draft, and that he has seen enough of the Vic youngsters to be able to appraise them properly.

I think we are keeping our picks,

He said clear top 4 so GWS pick 2 (which will become pick 4) is something we may target for 7 and 16.

He also wasn't convincing in saying he'd seen enough of the Vic players. He tried to be positive but you could tell he was concerned. Remember these guys have played ~10 games over 2 years now. Not a lot to go on.

 

[AngryAnt]

Huggins

nice work zips, nearly as good as griffins and griggs

 

[zippadeee]

nice work zips, nearly as good as griffins and griggs

Yeah
What a waste of a quality pick.

 

[AngryAnt]

Yeah
What a waste of a quality pick.

yep I hate the Huggins

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Besides a fluke pick here and there.
He hasnt hit gold with any high picks.
Losing him wouldn't bother me.
Huggins instead of Ryan, Talyor or Allen. Is sackable any way

So if he gets a pick wrong then he's a dud recruiter.

But if he gets a pick right then it's a fluke.

Peak Zips post.

 

[St Kevin]

Besides a fluke pick here and there.
He hasnt hit gold with any high picks.
Losing him wouldn't bother me.
Huggins instead of Ryan, Talyor or Allen. Is sackable any way

He hasn’t had a top 10 pick.

CJ, Balta and Baker is a great haul for one draft. 3 10 year players.

 

[taztiger4]

Recruited by:
Frank
Vlas
Grimes
Dusty
Jack
Cotch
Sheds
George
Short
D.Rioli
Rance
Astbury
Lambert
Bolton
Graham
Broad
Chol
Soldo (thanks to Maric)
Ellis x2
Butler
(Conca, Batchelor, Vickery, Post, Connors, Collins, Putt, Webberly, Nason, Hicks, Marric etc.)

Blair
Houli
Grigg
Maric
Knights
Chaplin
Hampson
Petterd
Nank
Prestia
Caddy
Lynch

Clarke
Higgins
CJ
Balta
Naish
Miller
RCD
Ross
Turner
English
Stack
Pickett
Aarts
Dow
Cumberland
Martyn
Ralphsmith
Biggie
Ryan
MoJu
Parker
Egg

Frank obviously assisted by Matty Clarke since Jan 2009 so had a hand in Dusty's draft onward till he became the boss in 16

 

[BillyJean17]

So FJ selected 19 premiership players , be a few red faces if we went back thru the logs

 

[King Kong]

So FJ selected 19 premiership players , be a few red faces if we went back thru the logs

FJ's issue was his very poor first round selections. He built his reputation off hitting later picks.

Notable first round misses include: JON, C Ellis, B Lennon & R Conca. All were top 12 picks and major busts.

 

[St Kevin]

FJ's issue was his very poor first round selections. He built his reputation off hitting later picks.

Notable first round misses include: JON, C Ellis, B Lennon & R Conca. All were top 12 picks and major busts.

Not to mention the very poor selections of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Edwards, Rance, Vlastuin and B. Ellis. Amazing he lasted as long as he did.

 

[zippadeee]

Not to mention the very poor selections of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Edwards, Rance, Vlastuin and B. Ellis. Amazing he lasted as long as he did.

Cotchin and Martin we easy..
Cotchin or Kuszer.
With Martin it all depended on what Melbourne was doing.
We didnt trade pick 3 to Sydney because Martin or Trengrove were the midfielders the club was chasing.
Sydney wanted Martin and they ended up picking Rohan and Jetta
Riewodlt and Big V were good picks.
Edwards and Rance were picks 19 and pick 26.
And Ellis.

 

[zippadeee]

FJ's issue was his very poor first round selections. He built his reputation off hitting later picks.

Notable first round misses include: JON, C Ellis, B Lennon & R Conca. All were top 12 picks and major busts.

Im with you.
His picks especially around picks 7 to 15 have been disasters.
He is lucky because he has plucked some from deep in the draft and the Rookie draft has saved him.

 

[The_General]

Im with you.
His picks especially around picks 7 to 15 have been disasters.
He is lucky because he has plucked some from deep in the draft and the Rookie draft has saved him.

Please do some research to show if he's better, worse or on par with other recruiters. I think you'll find FJ was an average recruiter in the first round compared to other clubs, maybe just above.

 

[St Kevin]

Please do some research to show if he's better, worse or on par with other recruiters. I think you'll find FJ was an average recruiter in the first round compared to other clubs, maybe just above.

I think if you take into account that FJ was basically a one man band for a lot of that time, his record is very strong.

A few people either have short memories, or unrealistic expectations.

 

[zippadeee]

Please do some research to show if he's better, worse or on par with other recruiters. I think you'll find FJ was an average recruiter in the first round compared to other clubs, maybe just above.

Unless the player fell into his hands, he basically always missed good kids after our pick.
Imagine now, just after 3 flags.
Having 2x Ellis, Huggins and Cd waiting to get into the side.
We would stay up
But 3 are gone and the last one cant run out half a game at the age of 20.
Either trade the early picks or go get better at recognising talent.