Liam McBean

[AngryAnt]

The only possible way McBean could stay is if there is a board, exec and coaching spill.

Benny could sack everyone then resign. Worth the lack of stability to retain the Bean.

GET IT DONE BENNY

 

[Baloo]

We need to bring Post, Gourdis and Putt back as well.

 

[lamb22]

Benny could sack everyone then resign. Worth the lack of stability to retain the Bean.

GET IT DONE BENNY

Yep, hate to lose the stability of 6 goals plus losses every week.

Imagine actually getting a coach that has a clue and assistants that aren't on smoko 24/7.

Dross good. Instability bad!

 

[Sintiger]

HOW many forwards play well in regular loosing 8-10 goal sides, should get minimum 4 games to see what he can do, if he turns out at another club, it would be another nail in usc supporters cofins, and we are starting to look like a bed of nails.

Maybe the sides lose because the forwards don't play well?

 

[toby64]

As I have said before Hardwick never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity and that includes driving a top 4 list into the ground through unfounded confidence in the "Richmond Way" incompetence and neglect.

:rofl

 

[evo]

We need to bring Post, Gourdis and Putt back as well.

Hilarious as ever.

Gourdis and Post were actually very promising at junior level. You can't expect to get every tall right but there's no doubt in my mind we burn more than our fair share of good young talls.

Best thing Shulz ever did for his career was getting traded out of Richmond

 

[AngryAnt]

Yep, hate to lose the stability of 6 goals plus losses every week.

Imagine actually getting a coach that has a clue and assistants that aren't on smoko 24/7.

Dross good. Instability bad!

Agreed! One Bean is worth more than all those other people put together!

Astute posting Lamb.

 

[lamb22]

Agreed! One Bean is worth more than all those other people put together!

Astute posting Lamb.

You know, I should be miffed but your dissembling posts just give me a laugh.

They are an art form in their own right!

PS There is no logic hurdle Antman cannot jump!

 

[tigerlove]

That makes it sound like he has a very questionable attitude. By all accounts...well maybe all bar 2...he's not exactly starring at VFL level.

I'd have a questionable attitude as well after being shafted for so long. McBean over his time at the Tigers has been no less deserving fo AFL game time than many others who have experienced many games at that level. He may not make it at AFL level, but unfortunately he'll never find out whilst at the Tigers. I hope another club does see his potential and give him a fair crack to try for his dream.

 

[AngryAnt]

You know, I should be miffed but your dissembling posts just give me a laugh.

Good outcome in my view.

PS go Bean!!!

 

[leon]

You mean like an official Astute Richmond Supporter Expert?

Might have been missed amongst all the angst here?

An ARSE. Classic.
:rofl

Can I nominate blx? An expert in the area, judging by his recent, 'witty riposte' to me a couple of pgs back.

 

[lamb22]

Good outcome in my view.

PS go Bean!!!

Agreed!

 

[waiting]

For his own future if he fails to get a senior call up by seasons end to stake his claim at the RFC then his only option is , is to look elsewhere.

I'm sure he would get picked up. Maybe not on a senior list possibly as a rookie?

We have another of talls and you would think at seasons end nor all will be on our list. We are in desperate need of quality midfield talent and these guys will be surplus. Some will be delisted or a trade organised?

Don't know Liam's contract situation.

 

[leon]

I suspect Liam is quite bright. You can put up with people talking crap for a while and give them the benefit of the doubt.

It appears Liam has stopped listening. Sad for us supporters. Great for the new club that lands him. Port would be ideal for him but he may want to form a duo with Joe at Essendon.

I posed this question a few pages before(below), surprised no-one responded directly including you, but was seriously interested in whether anyone close to the club, or with contacts in the know, thinks it likely? Others seem to have confirmed since, that it is. It will be a joke if we lose McBean in this way without fair testing at AFL level.

Re a related post of yours comparing Bean's treatment with Griff, muddying the waters a bit, as you know G has played more as a ruckman, utility, resting forward/ruck, or down back than McBean might have. Plus has probably missed far more games with injury problems etc. Just saying.

But rather than all the bickering over individual players, the greater issue is the failure of our talls overall. Have we just picked the wrong ones, eg instead of Lynch etc? Or just failed to develop them properly? Just more evidence of club's low football IQ or what?

Even by sheer luck, it is hard to believe that hardly any of our big men is regarded as a really successful player yet.

But if anyone thinks any one player, whoever you pick on, can or will transform the malaise at this club, you are kidding yourself.

[Could the Bean be p!ssed off enough to have accepted an offer to go elsewhere after a staged delisting end of this season (is he only contracted till then, can't remember)?

Would not be at all surprised if Essendope have been sounding him out. Didn't they want to draft him? Lives with Joey D.]

 

[Tigers of Old]

Hilarious as ever.

Gourdis and Post were actually very promising at junior level. You can't expect to get every tall right but there's no doubt in my mind we burn more than our fair share of good young talls.

Best thing Shulz ever did for his career was getting traded out of Richmond

Riewoldt and Rance are about the only two success stories since Richo.
What is it that sees so many failures?

 

[waiting]

TOO I think it's the below .

Development

Desire to succeed and be the best

Been given an opportunity

And the last two years being surrounded by ordinary players in the VFL

 

[Brodders17]

Spot on. He is pretty much a freak continually kicking bags of goals in such a poor side with particularly poor users in midfield.

Sparked up when Miles went down to VFL level (another mind boggling decision by the selectors).

Really has no one of any skill at VFL level bar perhaps Marcon. Lennon plays half back, Madonna's gone. Corey Short and Menadue promoted.

Mellington is OK but doesn't get a lot fo it. Scott is neat but likes to kick goals himself.

The rest are Townsend, Moore, Hunt, delisted scrubbers or suburban footballers.

so what you are saying is that Hardwick is picking every player on our list who can deliver the ball well to a forward?

 

[evo]

Riewoldt and Rance are about the only two success stories since Richo.

I was thinking that as I typed.

Good on Jack and Rance for reaching a top standard despite our development shortcomings.

Interestingly to me, in the u/18 game that Rance dominated at fullback - and what probably got us drafting him - Gourdis played a very good game at CHF for the same side. I remember Phanto and I actually talking about how the Goo looked pretty good, although his kicking was somewhat iffy.

Yazzy, Chimpy and Nicnut also played very well that day. There was a lot of good talent in that draft.

 

[Rancey18]

Despite all the stuff posted on here (including rubbish like "earn it"), anyone care to explain how someone like Chaplin earned a spot in our forward line? Must have played exceedingly well to get in ahead of McBean who has put up performances the last few years that suggested he deserved a chance. Inconsistency at selection is a constant theme under Hardwick.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Despite all the stuff posted on here (including rubbish like "earn it"), anyone care to explain how someone like Chaplin earned a spot in our forward line? Must have played exceedingly well to get in ahead of McBean who has put up performances the last few years that suggested he deserved a chance. Inconsistency at selection is a constant theme under Hardwick.

Yes Rancey, it's ludicrous and makes a mockery of all the 'earn it' calls.