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Jake Batchelor

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Spot on Tooheys. He's too slow for the little guys and gets out muscled too easily by the big blokes.

Good reader of the play but can get too lazy in getting to the contest.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
Batchelor as a classic inbetweener. His intercept mark is a strength but he's not really strong enough or quick enough. Also a bit sloppy by foot.
Needs the perfect matchup to be effective but it's not always available which limits him. The third tall defender needs flexibility and elite disposal.
He's ok, just not Grimes.
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We're trying to play him in a role as a KPD because Grimes is injured and we obviously don't have confidence in anything else at Coburg. He's Corey Enright size, don't see Corey trying to go 1 on 1 with 193cm+ KPF's all game. I don't see how you view this as a slight on Batchelor. Of course if you match up against players 2-3 inches taller with 10kg+ over him he will struggle. It's more a slight on our KP depth.
 
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He's the same height, 1.88, but about 10kg lighter than Joel Bowden. When he adds some bulk I reckon he can play tall when needed. He's a keeper.
 
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Baloo said:
He's the same height, 1.88, but about 10kg lighter than Joel Bowden. When he adds some bulk I reckon he can play tall when needed. He's a keeper.
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I still remember the day Bowdo had to play on a young champ named Jon Brown and kept him very honest. It's not ideal when undersized third talls have to play on gorillas but the good ones manage.
 
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Barnzy said:
We're trying to play him in a role as a KPD because Grimes is injured and we obviously don't have confidence in anything else at Coburg. He's Corey Enright size, don't see Corey trying to go 1 on 1 with 193cm+ KPF's all game. I don't see how you view this as a slight on Batchelor. Of course if you match up against players 2-3 inches taller with 10kg+ over him he will struggle. It's more a slight on our KP depth.
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I'm not sure Tooheys is slighting Batch, just making a call. Enright plays on smalls like Rioli. Batch can't do that, he's not quick enough.
 
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spook said:
I'm not sure Tooheys is slighting Batch, just making a call. Enright plays on smalls like Rioli. Batch can't do that, he's not quick enough.
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Yeah fair call his pace is not great.
 
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Baloo said:
He's the same height, 1.88, but about 10kg lighter than Joel Bowden. When he adds some bulk I reckon he can play tall when needed. He's a keeper.
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lets not exaggerate too much, he's 4 kgs lighter. I agree he's a keeper. reads the play well but needs to clean up his concentration lapses.
 
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bowden4president said:
lets not exaggerate too much, he's 4 kgs lighter. I agree he's a keeper. reads the play well but needs to clean up his concentration lapses.
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I used google which gave me 12kg lighter. I rounded up.
 
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Baloo said:
When he adds some bulk I reckon he can play tall when needed. He's a keeper.
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Agreed. Will be a solid player for RFC.
 
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bowden4president said:
how light did they have batch?....he's at 87kg now. maybe Joels put on a few kgs in retirement if he 99kgs :donut3 :donut3
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Jake:
Jake Batchelor
Australian Rules FootballerJake Batchelor is an Australian rules footballer who plays for the Richmond Football Club in the Australian Football League. WikipediaBorn: February 13, 1992 (age 21)
Height: 6' 2" (1.88 m)
Weight: 172 lbs (78 kg)

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Baloo said:
Jake:
Jake Batchelor
Australian Rules FootballerJake Batchelor is an Australian rules footballer who plays for the Richmond Football Club in the Australian Football League. WikipediaBorn: February 13, 1992 (age 21)
Height: 6' 2" (1.88 m)
Weight: 172 lbs (78 kg)

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All good, I fixed it ;D
 
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They are not doing him any favours playing him on talls. He is a very good intercept player and they should be playing him on mediums or smalls to free him up. Round 1 he was great. Next week Griffiths is dropped he has to play on Maister and he is not able to be influential.

I'm a fan because we don't have other guys back there who win the ball back. He can do it in the air or on the ground and turn a one one one into a rebound. Too many of our defenders only neutralise one or even two on ones. We concede too many stoppages in the forward line and give opposition a second chance to score.

Challenge for Jake is to get as fit as possible to play on the medium and smalls.
 
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CarnTheTiges said:
Hardwick occasionally does play Batch on the opposition KPF's. I'm not sure why, because he's always going to be giving away size to them.
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I'm not sure why either. Whilst he has a decent spoil and reads the ball pretty well in the air he's not a strong body on body player and is slow to move on the lead.
I think he's only getting a game atm due to lack of personnel Carn.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
I'm not sure why either. Whilst he has a decent spoil and reads the ball pretty well in the air he's not a strong body on body player and is slow to move on the lead.
I think he's only getting a game atm due to lack of personnel Carn.
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What's the difference between him & goldsack, malthouse would only use him as a back up, till he moved him to a different position and he blitzed. What's to say moving Batchelor to HF or the wing wouldn't be a better player?
 
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Tigers of Old said:
I'm not sure why either. Whilst he has a decent spoil and reads the ball pretty well in the air he's not a strong body on body player and is slow to move on the lead.
I think he's only getting a game atm due to lack of personnel Carn.
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At present he and Grimes are too similar (with Grimes being the more rounded player) to be played in the one side. As other personnel leave and/or are upgraded I think the team structure will allow the two players to be in the same side on a regular basis. Batch is definitely good enough to be a regular senior player. I think he's only in his 3rd year.
 
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zippadeee said:
What's the difference between him & goldsack, malthouse would only use him as a back up, till he moved him to a different position and he blitzed. What's to say moving Batchelor to HF or the wing wouldn't be a better player?
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Goldsack has more pace off the mark than Batchelor.

They tried Batch on the wing at the start of last year and it was a disaster. A stint to try him up forward is always worth a try though.
 
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CarnTheTiges said:
At present he and Grimes are too similar (with Grimes being the more rounded player) to be played in the one side. As other personnel leave and/or are upgraded I think the team structure will allow the two players to be in the same side on a regular basis. Batch is definitely good enough to be a regular senior player. I think he's only in his 3rd year.
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Perhaps.
Batch looked like a gun in his first season and I was a huge fan of his promising debut. However I've been a lot less impressed since he copped a few injuries.
Just doesn't seem as quick or as fluent as he did in his opening season where everything just seemed to flow and now flaws have been exposed in his game.
You're right in that it's still early days though. I haven't written him off by a long shot as he has shown he can play. Just not sure where he fits atm.
 
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Problem with Batch is his very poor skill set - horrible ball drop and consequently shaky kick, poor below his feet and very very poor at handball receives. He has trouble co-ordinating a run past at speed with actually collecting a ball.

Funnily enough nice hands overhead, good spoiler if he gets an unimpeded run. I think mentally
and belief he is fairly strong and that is probably his greatest strength.

To be a good medium/small defender he needs to work on his skill set - difficult.

To be a good tall defender he needs to grow a few centimetres and/or put on another 10 kgs of muscle - difficult.
 
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