You're barking up the wrong tree TBR. They were looking at the same footage as us, thats why they said "looking at this angle, we can see..."
Which angle is 'this' angle?
Same doctor...??? Maybe needs to head back to medical school!
Port Adelaide is fined $20,000 by the AFL for breaching concussion rules after allowing mid-fielder Hamish Hartlett back onto the field too soon after a head knock.
www.abc.net.au
Before you besmirch the good name of someone you should probably understand the facts. In that instance the person you refer to was attending to a potentially life threatening situation with another player when the head knock occurred and correctly maintained supervision of that situation as per the most basic principle of triage.
A less experienced person initiated the Scat3 test in an instance where it really wasn't required. When you do that, you have to notify the AFL interchange steward and start the clock on the mandatory exclusion time, which the person doing the test didn't know and failed to do.
The player passed the test and was therefore clear of concussion and the staff member allowed them back on the ground after that, which was earlier than they would have been allowed under the protocol.
It was nothing more than an administration error under the pressure of emergency medical situations occurring simultaneously and in no way an instance where the welfare and wellbeing of a player was put at risk.
Now I am probably one of those fools who thinks they know a bit more than they actually do, but multiple points of those were ticked and its a bad look, bad precedent to have knocks this bad not warranting a test. Again I have no experience in sports medicine and I am not a doctor or have any medical training.
When you say 'not warranting a test' I think you are misunderstanding how the process would work. I'm assuming the 'test' you mean is the Scat3 test, which is the formal assessment tool used to determine if a player can continue playing following a suspected concussion.
However, before you get to that point, you assess the player and determine if you consider that assessment is required. So when those boys get to the bench, you have little information other than there has been a clash, they have clearly both sustained knocks to the head and both looked a little dazed and were slow to get up. The latter is not particularly instructive because players stay down or get up for all sorts of reasons after a collision, shock, fatigue, pain, hoping for a free or a 50 etc...
So once those boys come to the bench to be patched up, the entire time they are being assessed. How is their speech, can they answer simple questions, what do their pupils look like, how is balance and co-ordination, how are their emotions, memory, how do they feel in terms of headache, nausea etc..... The fact neither lost consciousness is also important.
If there are no issues with any of those things then there is no reason to proceed with the Scat3, just you wouldn't put someone in an x-ray simply because you saw them get a knock on their leg. Concussions are often caused by very innocuous contact. If you placed every player in protocol because they took a knock without any further assessment then you would have to have a bench of 15.
In that instance the players return to the game and are closely monitored for any signs of delayed symptoms. You occasionally see an instance where a player is removed from the game and placed into protocol later following that close monitoring, or even after the game has concluded as I believe happened with Dylan Grimes at some stage.
You are putting your position very reasonably Jason, and I'm not directing this at you, but some of the rubbish I've read on here and heard in the media since last night is unbelievable.
Is the underlying premise of some of the comments on here that these dedicated professionals, who have a lifelong commitment to these boys and their families and go above and beyond in every single instance to preserve and protect their health and wellbeing would put these players back on the ground without due care?
For what? To try and win a game of football? There's some dumb stuff written on here from time to time but that without question is the dumbest.
