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Game Day R21 - Foldnorf v Richmond at the Dump
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For me the off-field is more concerning than what is happening on it.
O'Rourke who?
Gale hiding in the shadows
No Balme???
Meehan is like Cyclone Katrina, a bloody disaster that seems to bring only damaging results; do we have anyone else in this area, or who overseas this guy?
Clarke's legacy is a bit ordinary...
On the field, I think many sooking-la-las need to keep in mind that our Forward 50 was missing:
Lynch
Kelts
Gray
Bauer?
and of course, Cumberland!
Then there is the fact of no backups for Nanks.
OHB and Naismith out
Why didn't Sampson at least be brought in to give Nanks a chopout against another younger ruck?
The team has had no time together, has no connection due to injury-forced changes, and some oldies who have fallen of a cliff.
While this year sucks, the prospect of getting a big hit at this year's best and brightest, is pretty exciting!
FOS, Draper, Lalor, Berry, Reid etc etc etc
Sheezle goes alright for North and the Daicos' aren't too bad for the Filth. Pretty damn positive additions from the get go, and Draper has a better physique than most of our team!
Too optimistic? Maybe, but I'm sticking with it.
I don’t disagree. But from where we are, that is an acceptable timeline IMO.
The only way we stuff the draft is
1 Dont get multiple early picks due to refusal to trade for early picks
2 pick Smillie and Faull.
Draper Lalor Langford FOS Smith Berry Ried Simms Shanahan all stars...many more to choose.
Only idiots will stuff it.
Trade hard and get 5 or 6 under 22 and we are away. Plus 2 more next year. Instantly 1/3 of the best 23 handed to us.
A once in a generation opportunity.
I'd much rather be optimistic than be like some of the negative nancies on here. You have interests because you are supposed to enjoy them, yet some on here never seem to find any enjoyment in the Tiges, if I ever get that way, I think I'd walk away from footy and find something that gives me enjoyment. Thats why sometimes I might get a bit defensive when people on here try and tear you down when you might be the slightest bit optimistic about something.
Pre 2020 drafting was shithouse as well. Higgins, RCD, CCJ, Dow all late first round picks. Three are gone and the other should be.
It’s an indictment that none are entrenched in our best 22. Hopefully Toce is better.
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Well the club specifically stated we wouldn’t bottom out like this. Obviously got it very very wrong.
I agree. In the end it was our bad conversion rate that cost us. North team was 2 years 1 month younger and 42 games more inexperienced on average per player than us, which makes it even more disappointing.
This more than post 2020 drafting has hurt us more, though we did extract decent value from the Higgins / CCJ trades, the delay in bring able to bring these players into the best 22 of the side has impacted their ability to develop whilst those premiership heroes started their decline and are now having to develop at the bottom of the cycle.
Whilst people whinge about out post 2020 drafting it hasn't been that bad with the picks we've had. I've posted the list before but the same poster constantly brings up the same point even though its certainly nowhere near as bas as they try and paint.
So it’s a given that you should finish dead last and have the worst season result in the club’s history? Okay.
Hawks won 3 in a row but were never anywhere near as bad as this in the aftermath.
Our conversion rate is bad because most of the players in our team are absolutely shithouse kicks of the footy.
I didn’t say one draft was enough to fix our issues. We are at least 3 years of good drafting, plus a couple of extra preseasons, away from being serious contenders. But this draft seems to offer the bedrock on which to rebuild from. And we could conceivably have a significant number of early picks, not to mention considerable trade capital for future picks with so many clubs needing extra points to match bids.
I just felt you were being overly negative about our prospects of coming back in a reasonable timeframe from where we are now.
With Tassie joining soon, we are in familiar territory.
I agree except I am not so down on the admin of the club. I reckon you will find that plenty is being done behind the scenes and tbh I am not sure why supporters think we need to shout it from the rooftops.For me the off-field is more concerning than what is happening on it.
O'Rourke who?
Gale hiding in the shadows
No Balme???
Meehan is like Cyclone Katrina, a bloody disaster that seems to bring only damaging results; do we have anyone else in this area, or who overseas this guy?
Clarke's legacy is a bit ordinary...
On the field, I think many sooking-la-las need to keep in mind that our Forward 50 was missing:
Lynch
Kelts
Gray
Bauer?
and of course, Cumberland!
Then there is the fact of no backups for Nanks.
OHB and Naismith out
Why didn't Sampson at least be brought in to give Nanks a chopout against another younger ruck?
The team has had no time together, has no connection due to injury-forced changes, and some oldies who have fallen of a cliff.
While this year sucks, the prospect of getting a big hit at this year's best and brightest, is pretty exciting!
FOS, Draper, Lalor, Berry, Reid etc etc etc
Sheezle goes alright for North and the Daicos' aren't too bad for the Filth. Pretty damn positive additions from the get go, and Draper has a better physique than most of our team!
Too optimistic? Maybe, but I'm sticking with it.
Let’s just let them do their jobs in the off season.
But it's hard to make bad draft picks when you just trade them away. Pick # 40, 43 in 2023 draft & 49, 55 in 2022, 40, 51 in 2020 were our highest picks in those years. This strategy was a huge mistake imo. You have to keep them coming, test them out and turn them over.
Your view may be realistic, but others on here are talking like we use this one draft to magically get better. It won't, it takes time. Hardwick had some of the pieces in place, and I feel he started with a way better off field than we have currently given Yze.
