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Brandon Ellis
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Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Sheesh, that video of Brandon and Dale Ellis would bring a tear to a glass eye!
He looks like a leader to me, spoke well and has great values.
I like the comparisons with Chappy but I think our bloke is more suited to defence.
BTW, he shows more fortitude than Chappy in his young days (Geelong's development of him has been first rate).
Sheesh, that video of Brandon and Dale Ellis would bring a tear to a glass eye!
He looks like a leader to me, spoke well and has great values.
I like the comparisons with Chappy but I think our bloke is more suited to defence.
BTW, he shows more fortitude than Chappy in his young days (Geelong's development of him has been first rate).
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
That I can see a little bit. Low centre of gravity, strong hips, when he’s turning sometimes looks like he is on ice, powerful leg, v.good overhead for his size, likes the contest.
spook said:
That I can see a little bit. Low centre of gravity, strong hips, when he’s turning sometimes looks like he is on ice, powerful leg, v.good overhead for his size, likes the contest.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Brandon Ellis reminds me of a very unfashionable player - Robert Shirley. Yes, Ellis's skills are better than Shirley's. Much better. And he's miles ahead at the same age.
Physically, the way they move, the shape, they're alike. Shirley was (?) 185 and 84. Thought he was a monster. Ellis is 184 and 84 and will tell everybody who'll listen that he's a monster, a fiend. Pipsqueaks who think they're giants. It's a head start on a football ground.
Let's not lose site of Shirley's record. Are blokes who start in the midfield in preliminary finals and consistently beat their opponents dime a dozen? (I reckon maybe three of our players have done that once in the past 29 years.)
Shirley built a fine career largely on a quality that has been rumoured to be decreasingly important for as long as I can remember. But is crucial. Shirley was indomitable. He would not be beaten.
I saw Shirley play his first game. Back Pocket - Escort Cup? (can't remember the opponent). I think he was 19. He beat the glamour. But was scratchy in skills and slow. Rumours of his physical grandeur lingered only in his own mind and that of the glamour. A checkered career from there. Football kept kicking him in the guts and he kept getting up and fighting tougher and better. Some people are made of harder stuff.
But Shirley had a limitation that cruelled him. Pace? Pace is overrated. He couldn't hurt on the counter. Brandon can.
Everybody on the Richmond list should hope to succeed the way Robert Shirley did - none has. I think Brandon Ellis will surpass him.
Brandon Ellis reminds me of a very unfashionable player - Robert Shirley. Yes, Ellis's skills are better than Shirley's. Much better. And he's miles ahead at the same age.
Physically, the way they move, the shape, they're alike. Shirley was (?) 185 and 84. Thought he was a monster. Ellis is 184 and 84 and will tell everybody who'll listen that he's a monster, a fiend. Pipsqueaks who think they're giants. It's a head start on a football ground.
Let's not lose site of Shirley's record. Are blokes who start in the midfield in preliminary finals and consistently beat their opponents dime a dozen? (I reckon maybe three of our players have done that once in the past 29 years.)
Shirley built a fine career largely on a quality that has been rumoured to be decreasingly important for as long as I can remember. But is crucial. Shirley was indomitable. He would not be beaten.
I saw Shirley play his first game. Back Pocket - Escort Cup? (can't remember the opponent). I think he was 19. He beat the glamour. But was scratchy in skills and slow. Rumours of his physical grandeur lingered only in his own mind and that of the glamour. A checkered career from there. Football kept kicking him in the guts and he kept getting up and fighting tougher and better. Some people are made of harder stuff.
But Shirley had a limitation that cruelled him. Pace? Pace is overrated. He couldn't hurt on the counter. Brandon can.
Everybody on the Richmond list should hope to succeed the way Robert Shirley did - none has. I think Brandon Ellis will surpass him.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Nice. I doubt whether Shirley’s dad put as much thought into his career as you just did.
Btw as a postscript a mate played for Ainslie when Shirls was coach and speaks very highly of him.
Dyer'ere said:
Nice. I doubt whether Shirley’s dad put as much thought into his career as you just did.
Btw as a postscript a mate played for Ainslie when Shirls was coach and speaks very highly of him.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Doesn't surprise me that Shirley is well regarded by your mate, Colonel. Nice PS. Glad to read it.
And H&S (Shirley not! :hihi) and PP, just a hint of irony in my post. And thank you, Phil, for allowing that I've exceeded my usual standard of lunacy. ;D
Doesn't surprise me that Shirley is well regarded by your mate, Colonel. Nice PS. Glad to read it.
And H&S (Shirley not! :hihi) and PP, just a hint of irony in my post. And thank you, Phil, for allowing that I've exceeded my usual standard of lunacy. ;D
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Forgive my ignorance, but who the hell is Robert Shirley? An ex-Crow?Dyer'ere said:
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Robert Shirley is not a god of the game, TF08.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shirley_%28footballer%29
Somebody Brandon Ellis can be better than.
Robert Shirley is not a god of the game, TF08.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shirley_%28footballer%29
Somebody Brandon Ellis can be better than.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Sounds like we already have our Shirley upgrade in TuckyDyer'ere said:
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
A couple more notes on Brandon Ellis.
A facet of his game that we have not explored yet is is marking in front of packs. And rightly - nobody wants to see 18yos fed to adult monster forwards. Ellis can get air, he is fearless and the ball sticks in his hands. He can hold space. And he thrives on punishment. His aerial game will come to the fore.
He lacks explosive pace, is clean at ankle height but not elite. (Better at calf height - this matters.) Therefore not likely to make an inside clearance midfielder. But he'll do the miles. In time he will outstay them and the game is moving to endurance - fewer interchange players covering more ground over more time. Endurance is much about will.
His kicking is technically imperfect but he will raise his eyes and look for a hard target. (He doesn't do this much yet because he has not mastered the pace of the game, and learned to allow for his lack of the stuff.) He can execute.
The coach, although a much heavier specimen, probably sees Ellis as a very similar player to himself. Ellis is made of the same stuff. He will get a go.
There will be a lot more pressure for a game at Richmond next year. And he will probably get a bit of 2YB. But if Brandon can keep his body right he will give us something special over time. Effectiveness.
And last, the point of my earlier post about Shirley:
Ellis had a little highlight this year. The glamourous and brilliant Cotchin beat Gary Ablett jr head to head. That doesn't happen. Ellis may never do anything like that. But he got his own moment. Nobody lays Gary Ablett out. Doesn't happen. Ellis gave him a huge start in terms of ability and experience, not to mention mass and (physics) momentum, and cleaned Gary Ablett up. It's almost as rare as beating him head to head. Lester's moments are not as glamourous as a god's but he does and will have them.
Anybody who cares to think about it will tell you that Trent Cotchin's success is (and will be) based on his relish of small successes. Ellis has that in common with him. I feel like I can learn a lot from either of them.
A couple more notes on Brandon Ellis.
A facet of his game that we have not explored yet is is marking in front of packs. And rightly - nobody wants to see 18yos fed to adult monster forwards. Ellis can get air, he is fearless and the ball sticks in his hands. He can hold space. And he thrives on punishment. His aerial game will come to the fore.
He lacks explosive pace, is clean at ankle height but not elite. (Better at calf height - this matters.) Therefore not likely to make an inside clearance midfielder. But he'll do the miles. In time he will outstay them and the game is moving to endurance - fewer interchange players covering more ground over more time. Endurance is much about will.
His kicking is technically imperfect but he will raise his eyes and look for a hard target. (He doesn't do this much yet because he has not mastered the pace of the game, and learned to allow for his lack of the stuff.) He can execute.
The coach, although a much heavier specimen, probably sees Ellis as a very similar player to himself. Ellis is made of the same stuff. He will get a go.
There will be a lot more pressure for a game at Richmond next year. And he will probably get a bit of 2YB. But if Brandon can keep his body right he will give us something special over time. Effectiveness.
And last, the point of my earlier post about Shirley:
Ellis had a little highlight this year. The glamourous and brilliant Cotchin beat Gary Ablett jr head to head. That doesn't happen. Ellis may never do anything like that. But he got his own moment. Nobody lays Gary Ablett out. Doesn't happen. Ellis gave him a huge start in terms of ability and experience, not to mention mass and (physics) momentum, and cleaned Gary Ablett up. It's almost as rare as beating him head to head. Lester's moments are not as glamourous as a god's but he does and will have them.
Anybody who cares to think about it will tell you that Trent Cotchin's success is (and will be) based on his relish of small successes. Ellis has that in common with him. I feel like I can learn a lot from either of them.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
;D Gyps is good to go to the races, Laser. You up? Come along Friday to the single launch if you can, young man. (Dancin time.) Or are you banned? Whittish! :hihi
I haven't had any cognac, spook.
Leysy Days said:
;D Gyps is good to go to the races, Laser. You up? Come along Friday to the single launch if you can, young man. (Dancin time.) Or are you banned? Whittish! :hihi
spook said:
I haven't had any cognac, spook.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
I was off to dip into some Cormack McCarthy, and then I stumble upon the prose of the BigD, in the 'welcome Brandon Ellis' thread....just riffin on the Tigers. Life's great, and teaching my kids to read brings me great joy.
I was off to dip into some Cormack McCarthy, and then I stumble upon the prose of the BigD, in the 'welcome Brandon Ellis' thread....just riffin on the Tigers. Life's great, and teaching my kids to read brings me great joy.
