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Andrew Browne
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Where did gollywogs 'we need to spend some dough on a ruckman' thread go?Tigers of Old said:
Anyway ill put it here. Richo agreed with tgw this morning amd said we need to trade for an experienced ruck.
tigersnake said:
Ah Richo, always the revolutionary ;D
If Trengove comes, that helps. Keefe is on the verge at Collingwood. We just need to give our Mids an even break - even Blake on a two contract while we ready our list - he's a stop gap, but an upgrade on both Browne and Graham in absence of something else.
Browne is a plodder, he'd be better suited to 1970's football where physical presence was enough to keep you in the team. He's a slight upgrade on Patto but that's about it. He's raw but I just don't see any radical improvement which will propel him to elite levels. Obtaining a decent ruckman shouldn't be too difficult, just about every recycled ruckman in the competition is doing well and most have been picked up with late first round and second round picks.
A lot of knee jerk reactions on here. Browne is an absolute baby in ruck terms. Simply doesnt have the fitness or strength to compete as yet.
Time for a spell at Coburg and we do need to recruit an experienced ruck but Andrew is well worth persisting with on our list.
Time for a spell at Coburg and we do need to recruit an experienced ruck but Andrew is well worth persisting with on our list.
Leysy Days said:
Agreed leysey and I saw the abuse coming. Browney got owned yesterday and Judd mentioned on before the game how the Blues could just concentrate on their clearance structures without worrying about roving the the oposition ruck. This played a huge part in the win. But despite his size Browney is along way off in relation to strength.
Probably should get another game as he will do better against Ryder.
Pity about the X man because now would have been a good time to debut.
The only silver lining in our ruck stocks is Vickery who could be very good in 18 months time.
Leysy Days said:
Have to agree with this assessment, the little I've seen of Derickx(?) seems promising and as dissapointed as I was yesterday there are too many here ready to throught the baby out with the bath-water. Browne is a massive unit and will probably only hit his straps around 24, if we can have him sharing the load he can be a useful part of a multi-pronged ruck.
Leysy Days said:
If Andrew Browne was eligible for the draft would you pick him up? Does he have the tools of other young rucks in the system? He's young but so was Patto at one stage, I just can't see what he brings to the table. As for lacking strength and physicality, he's a man mountain - how much bigger can he get? Those who believe he can become a Sandilands type (small leap but height advantage) need to realise he's 7 cm shorter and doesn't have the wingspan of a Sandi. Take a snapshot of all the other ruckman running around and most have mobilty and an ability to link up and run and carry. Can Browne even kick? He's become so predictable with his dishing off with the handball you can just see the opposition licking their lips in anticipation. I'm all for getting games into the youngsters but waiting to see if Browne makes it or not has the potential to rob another more talented ruck of game time. Of course this is a statement which applies to next year and beyond but if the coaching staff want to improve the hitouts to advantage and clearances then they better start making the ruck our number one recruiting priority.
Well said there Leysy,why is it so hard for people to comprehend that rucks take the longest of all positions to develope?Leysy Days said:
Can you rattle off a few names of the ruckmen that have performed better than the big ranga at his age?Scribblar said:
bullus_hit said:
Nobody with half a brain and footballing knowledge WOULD EVER draft Andrew Browne to play Senior AFL Football.
Maybe 30 years ago, but not to play in the modern game.
On second thought, Big Nick, Thommo, Round, Dempsey, Monkey and anyone else would have smashed him.
Andrew Browne should be rucking for some A grade Amateur Side.
End of story.
Uncle said:
It's not an age thing.
You're put out on the park, at any age, you have to perform to a winning standard.
Age is no excuse.
If that's the case we can put a 5 year old out there to ruck and blame his lack of performance on age.
Why the age excuse for Ruckman? Or that applies to all positions on the ground. Where's Dusty excuse? Are you saving that?
Where's Heppell or Menxell's age excuse? On the flipside, where's Fletcher excuse?
If you're picked to play Senior Football, sorry, you're out of excuses.
Who said anything about excuses? I'm just throwing out the facts.Scribblar said:
Just name the players!!!
The fact that you compare ruckmen to mids is a great example of your understanding of the tall timber.
To put it simply for you as you are clearly a simpleton the big ranga is competing against ruckmen who
have been in the system for 6-10 years.
People trot out cliches to soothe themselves. Browne doesnt need more experience to match it with the better rucks he needs more ABILITY. Browne would still be struggling in 2015 if he were lucky enough to still be playing because he has no specific stand out qualities as an AFL ruckman. Rucks may need more time to become very good AFL rucks but they come off a base of having reasonable ability. Browne and Gus come off a base of being below average standard for AFL rucks.
Scribblar said:
you're right. age is no excuse. all those who think gold coast are going to win a premiership in a few years are deluded, they can barely win a game. they need to turn over most of their list. the whole 'they're just kids' thing is just rubbish.
Well said.Brodders17 said:
Adelaide have a super talented list and they will be a very good side in 2-3 years. People won't see it atm and they will crucify the list just because they aint winning games atm. They are young and copped 9 senior players retiring etc... growing pains gunna happen..
Tiges have talent. Still miles to go but one game doesnt suddenly make us a "no future" list... It means our attitude is poor atm and we lack depth and good experience players...
Theres a few things I like about Browne, theres nothing I like about Gus.........as everybody knows we must upgrade...though gun mids read either ruckman..........a ruckman now days must be another midfielder who can preferablly take a grab an kick a goal otherwise not worth a pinch of albatross as Gus proves
How many 6 gamers have taken the world by storm in the ruck?
If we had a decent ruck pool, we'd never have been in this situation, because Andrew Browne would be learning his skills in the ressies. Instead, we have Gus and him. For gods sake, give the kid a chance. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
If we had a decent ruck pool, we'd never have been in this situation, because Andrew Browne would be learning his skills in the ressies. Instead, we have Gus and him. For gods sake, give the kid a chance. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
