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2024 Training With The Ooze Crew
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It is a good debate with some differing views but one thing for sure is that whatever we say on this forum will have zero effect on what actually happens
There is no doubt we need to a small forward who hits the scoreboard.
Just proving once again, what sh!t Dimma left behind last season.Far out some of those snr boys look like they haven't run like this for years.
I always felt and said as much that since 2020(so 2021 preseason) that some of our senior players who were content with success (and in all fairness who can blame them) have been cutting corners with running, fitness, sessions etc. You'd see little comments in the media from younger guys like short referring to things like jack not rocking up often and using the kids as an excuse and the older boys barely doing any running during preseason, it really showed with silly mistakes happening in game that never used to happen, think Grimes unforced errors, not transitioning back quick enough as a group and allowing oppos to cut through us like a hot knife through butter. Signs have been there for past 2 seasons. We needed a fresh start.
Also, I dont think small fwds will be starvation corner like it used to be that was a very Dimma specific trait, good small fwds in the competition get reward, and hopefully our will too under Yze
Let’s face it , dimma despised small forwards with an eye for a goal , funny if it wasn’t true
exhibit A butler
exhibit b higgjns
exhibit c cumbo
I know that that they'd be pretty tough to dig up seeing as they're a couple years old now, but any chance you'd be able to link to any of the interviews/media spots with those sorta comments? It doesn't surprise me but I'd love to know the context
Interesting version of history for those 3
Butler lost his place to Shai Bolton, not sure I would argue against that one
Higgins had his brain bleed issues and when he did come back wasn’t very effective and Bolton and Castagna were preferred to him.
Cumbo played under Dimma in 2022 and did well. His form early last season was poor culminating in the horror performance at Marvel against the suns, deserved to be dropped. Came back under mini but got injured again.
There is a good argument that playing small forward for Richmond under Dimma was a tough gig but not sure I agree with your examples of players he “despised”.
Agree fully ,Taranto runs 10% more per game than Brisbane Lions Dunkley does, while young is a stay at home 1 on 1 defender.
And inviting them means nothing,Richmond if it wanted could sign any of the other clubs invited players,has happened with the Carlton invited trainee who got pinched and signed with saints earlier this year
When they say limited success, u need to play forward all season to look successful as forwards regularly kick 1 or 2 per match only.Richmond track watch: All the latest news out of pre-season from Punt Rd
Glenn McFarlane - Heraqld Sun/News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
The Tigers hit the track on Wednesday morning and new coach Adem Yze provided updates on Dusty, a switch up for Noah Balta, Tom Lynch’s injury and more.
Richmond is weighing up moving key defender Noah Balta into attack for an extended stint next season in an effort to boost the Tigers’ forward potency in the post-Jack Riewoldt era.
With the club’s dual premiership forward Tom Lynch making slow but steady progress from a nagging foot injury and with new coach Adem Yze keen to play a fast-pace, front-half game, the temptation to switch Balta forward looms as one of the club’s key options for 2024.
Yze said the Tigers were looking at bedding down some positional changes ahead of his first season in the role, but was reluctant to yet detail the possible moves.
But the Herald Sun understands that Balta will likely get a crack at playing forward at stages, further evidenced by some light match simulation at a rainswept Punt Road on Wednesday.
Balta, 24, has played forward at times in recent seasons with limited success, having looked more comfortable in defence.
However, if the club can get talented young defender Josh Gibcus back from hamstring issues that cost him the entire 2023 season, Balta could head forward to assist Lynch, former Hawk Jacob Koschitzke and co in attack, while also helping Toby Nankervis in the ruck.
Noah Balta could be heading forward. Picture: Ian Currie
“There might be some changes in personnel and positions and that will come out in the near future,” Yze said when asked about the club’s forward line.
“We are not going to disclose those right now, but we are tinkering with what our best positions are. Tom Lynch is obviously a big pillar in that and if he is not available (early), then some of the kids will also get a bigger go.”
Lynch played the first four games in 2023, but a foot issue kept him sidelined for the rest of the season.
Yze is hopeful the 31-year-old will be right to tackle his old coach Damien Hardwick and Gold Coast in the Tigers’ first match of the season on March 9, but he is adamant the club won’t be pushing Lynch if he isn’t ready.
“He had a really tough run last year, but right now he is ticking all the boxes,” Yze said.
“We have just got to temper how quickly we get him back out there. If it means he is not going to be there at the start of the year, then I have got to be patient with that.
“We are hoping he will be (right to play against the Suns).
“He will start to up the ante after Christmas and we will play it by ear. But the scans and everything he has been through has been positive so far.”
Internally, there is a quiet confidence that the big forward is on the right pathway again, though he is being eased back into it and was not on the track on Wednesday.
The club is hoping he can get back to the form that saw him kick 63 goals from 19 games in 2022, instead of the four games for four goals last season that put pressure back on Riewoldt, who has called an end to his celebrated AFL career after 347 games and 787 goals.
Adem Yze shares a laugh with Josh Gibcus. Picture: Ian Currie
REMODELLING GIBCUS
Take a close look at the way Josh Gibcus is running and attacking the ball at the moment, and you might barely notice the difference.
But the modifications he had made to his gait - and even the way he picks up the ball - might be the difference between getting him back on the field or sitting in the stands as he did for the entire 2023 season.
Gibcus, 20, spent a week in Qatar at an internationally renowned sports medicine practice working his movement and his attack on the ball, to see if changes could help him overcome his hamstring issues.
So far, the indications are good and he is being closely monitored by the club and at times being held back, given his enthusiasm.
“He is tracking really nicely, we have to touch wood … it would have been a very frustrating experience for him last year,” Yze said.
“We have to be mindful of that. We can’t rush this. Right now he is itching (to do more). He just wants to be involved in everything and he probably can. But we have to temper that.
“He will get to Christmas and set a nice base, so that he doesn’t have any setbacks, so he can move forward because he is a terrific talent for us.”
Dustin Martin in action. Picture: Ian Currie
NO PRESSURE ON DUSTY
For years as a rival assistant coach Yze has had to plan on trying to stop Dustin Martin’s dominance, now he wants to make the most of what the superstar Tiger can provide his teammates in the last year of his contract at Punt Rd.
The Tigers are eager to re-sign Martin, 32, beyond the end of 2024, but Yze won’t pressure the midfielder/forward into making an early decision.
Instead, he plans to provide the right sort of working environment to ensure Martin thrives at Punt Rd, and makes him want to stay.
“We want Dusty happy, we want him to enjoy his footy,” Yze said. “As a coach, I am not going to put a timeline on it (his contract). It is a big decision for him.
“I just hope he gets the right feeling about not only himself, but about our coaching staff.
“He is an amazing Richmond person and we hope he is a Richmond man for life. That is going to be his decision. But my job is to give him the environment that he enjoys and to know that he can keep improving.”
Adem Yze talks to his troops. Picture: Ian Currie
Martin was one of the most impressive on the track on Wednesday, and looks fit and ready to tackle next season, off the back of a strong 2023 season.
He seems certain to keep a similar forward-mid split next season.
Among the other young Tigers who have impressed so far in the early stages of preseason include Tyler Sonsie and Thomson Dow.
The Tigers have two players - East Perth forward Mitch Schofield and Kiwi Mykelti Lefau (who was formerly part of the club’s VFL program) - training in the hope of being picked up in the preseason supplemental selection period.
run chase tackle was first, second and third priority. and then, with whatever breath you have left, get front and square, or find space.
be creative? sure if you can, after you've done everything else first
You need to be pretty creative to explain why cumbo wasn’t in our best side from r1 given his 22 season. Dimma thinking was fkd up from the start and it didn’t Improve in the 23 campaign
Kosy recruited as a backup for Lynch. If Lynch proves his fitness and Naismith is chosen to be the relief ruckman, then Kosy is no certainty for round 1.
Yes, that is the discussion about being a small forward under Dimma and how it was a tough gig. I agree with that
The comment I made was in response to 3 players being named as ones who Dimma “despised”
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