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2024 - List Management
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A few people have mentioned Lynch.
Not saying if you can get an elite key forward you don't grab one. When there that good they can make a huge difference.
Moreso saying that when building a team you need to end up with a side that wins "chaos" games of football. Finals footy. Not nicely skilled, but one-paced, poor below the knees players that play controlled football that breaks down when the stakes go up.
Ergo that means we should be prioritising players that are agile, clean, instinctive and apply pressure so they can create and then hoover up all those loose ground balls in big games.
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Because rookies rarely turn into AFL calibre players, able to make 100 games, let alone 200 or be a match winner.
Our list is full of AFL capable role players. We don't need more of them, we need elite, match winning class.
Time to stop banging that drum.
Good post Leysy. Been saying for a while we lack speed in the fwd line which is why I was calling for Rioli and Hugo to play fwd this year.
We stumbled onto this formula in 2017 out of necessity with rioli George Butler Lambert and shed creating havoc in the fwd line and the results were beautiful. We revolutionised the game however we went away from this and didn't replenish our stocks when we traded out the likes of butler stengle Higgins and moved rioli back. We need to get back on the horse quickly starting this draft.
Question is how do we get pick 2 or 3 from North and WC? If we get 9 and 10 from Freo, do we offer these as swap? These picks will slide to 12 and 13 after ashcroft Lombard and saint compo and will hold a value of 2480.
Pick 2 is 2517. Maybe throw in a later pick to entice North.
Pick 3 is 2234. WC may be after the WA kid Allen - pick 12 may be his pick range and they'll score an extra first rounder out of the deal. Or we offer Baker and pick 10, in effect trading Baker for pick 9 (12).
Pick 2 is 2517. Maybe throw in a later pick to entice North.
Pick 3 is 2234. WC may be after the WA kid Allen - pick 12 may be his pick range and they'll score an extra first rounder out of the deal. Or we offer Baker and pick 10, in effect trading Baker for pick 9 (12).
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Another thing Blair has to consider is getting the greatest return for our draft picks by rolling the excess up this year or into next year and not giving them away cheaply. Currently we hold 9 picks with points value. If we gain say another 6 picks for the 4 players departing, that's 15. If we take only 7-8 into this draft, that's 7-8 picks Blair needs to either package and trade up into this yrs draft or roll into next year's draft. That's alot of trading required on top of getting the right deals done for the 4 players. He really needs to start dealing early in the trade period ti get the deals done.
AI .......Always inebriated?
Seriously one of the best posts I've read in 20 odd years here
And guys like Aarts who followed, although their hearts are big, don't cut the mustard.
We need em with big balls of steel...who won't panic under pressure. Speed, class and ice in their veins please.
Goota think that some of those picks will be eventually moved to next year on the draft night or before. I suspect they would want a minimum of 3 1st rounders next year as well
Only problem is none of our forward talls are proven. Ryan ?? Gray ?? Fawcett?? Lefau second knee?? Bauer not key and only played a few games without injury??
Zero chance we get pick 3 for Baker. If we can get 13 or whatever the Hawks give up for Barrass we have made out like theives. In all likelihood its 23 plus a future third.
Rioli will be pick 6 maximum with nothing further thrown in
From The Age.
Richmond want more than pick 6 for Rioli.
Collingwood ask for pick 12 for Noble - to open negotiations.
North Melbourne pick 2 on the table.
The Tigers already hold the No.1 selection in what talent scouts rate as a strong and deep crop – albeit without an obvious dux of the class – but are certain to strengthen their first-round hand in the trade period.
Rioli, who is contracted until 2027, wants to join Gold Coast under his former coach Damien Hardwick, with the Suns holding picks six, 12 (tied to the Western Bulldogs) and 20 (North Melbourne assistance package selection) and set to match a bid on academy product Leo Lombard.
Richmond are not expected to inquire about Jack Lukosius as part of the Rioli negotiations, but will demand more compensation than merely pick six for Rioli, who is favoured to win the Jack Dyer Medal this season.
Meanwhile, Collingwood have asked for the Suns’ pick 12 for contracted defender John Noble, in an ambitious opening of negotiations.
Both clubs are aware of the heavy draft hand, including the aforementioned first-round picks, and selections 26, 34, 46 and 70, and know Lombard will attract a first-round bid.
Lukosius has spoken to both South Australian clubs, and is likely to request a trade despite being contracted on a back-ended deal for two more seasons. Collingwood previously expressed interest in the 24-year-old swingman as well.
Bolton and Baker want to return to Western Australia, but are yet to nominate a club.
Fremantle, who have selections nine, 10 (tied to Collingwood) and 17 (tied to Port Adelaide), are considered Bolton’s likeliest destination, and they are also in serious contention for Baker, who grew up a West Coast fan but knows the Dockers have been keen on him for years.
The Eagles are poised to receive Hawthorn’s first-round selection for contracted defender Tom Barrass, who has already indicated he wants to join the Hawks. Richmond unrestricted free agent Jack Graham is weighing up an offer from West Coast as well.
The Tigers also have two second-round picks, and another three in the third round, which they hope to use to move up the order, so are shaping to be the biggest players in the 2024 draft.
North Melbourne are open to trading down from No.2, given they already have a good group of promising midfielders, and could select a tall with a later top-10 selection – but finding a trade partner could be a challenge.
Richmond want more than pick 6 for Rioli.
Collingwood ask for pick 12 for Noble - to open negotiations.
North Melbourne pick 2 on the table.
Old Tigers, numerous draft picks
Richmond could look to spread some of their return for wantaway stars Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli and Liam Baker into the 2025 draft, rather than putting all their eggs in this year’s basket.The Tigers already hold the No.1 selection in what talent scouts rate as a strong and deep crop – albeit without an obvious dux of the class – but are certain to strengthen their first-round hand in the trade period.
Rioli, who is contracted until 2027, wants to join Gold Coast under his former coach Damien Hardwick, with the Suns holding picks six, 12 (tied to the Western Bulldogs) and 20 (North Melbourne assistance package selection) and set to match a bid on academy product Leo Lombard.
Richmond are not expected to inquire about Jack Lukosius as part of the Rioli negotiations, but will demand more compensation than merely pick six for Rioli, who is favoured to win the Jack Dyer Medal this season.
Meanwhile, Collingwood have asked for the Suns’ pick 12 for contracted defender John Noble, in an ambitious opening of negotiations.
Both clubs are aware of the heavy draft hand, including the aforementioned first-round picks, and selections 26, 34, 46 and 70, and know Lombard will attract a first-round bid.
Lukosius has spoken to both South Australian clubs, and is likely to request a trade despite being contracted on a back-ended deal for two more seasons. Collingwood previously expressed interest in the 24-year-old swingman as well.
Bolton and Baker want to return to Western Australia, but are yet to nominate a club.
Fremantle, who have selections nine, 10 (tied to Collingwood) and 17 (tied to Port Adelaide), are considered Bolton’s likeliest destination, and they are also in serious contention for Baker, who grew up a West Coast fan but knows the Dockers have been keen on him for years.
The Eagles are poised to receive Hawthorn’s first-round selection for contracted defender Tom Barrass, who has already indicated he wants to join the Hawks. Richmond unrestricted free agent Jack Graham is weighing up an offer from West Coast as well.
The Tigers also have two second-round picks, and another three in the third round, which they hope to use to move up the order, so are shaping to be the biggest players in the 2024 draft.
North Melbourne are open to trading down from No.2, given they already have a good group of promising midfielders, and could select a tall with a later top-10 selection – but finding a trade partner could be a challenge.
The suggestion is 3 swapped for 10 and Baker.
WCE have publicly stated Baker alone doesnt get 3.
And didnt rule out trading 3.
For sure. But Lefau and Gray are competitors and Fawcett shows traits he is a competitor in an extremely small sample size. Ryan is not compeititve. We still have Lynch - first pre-season in two years, the ultimate competitive beast.
Could also rookie both May and Davidson if they are still available, plus draft a tall; several available - Armstrong, Shanahan, Dodson, Mraz, O'farrell, lockwood etc.
