Also helps TT and Hops.
If we move out Baker Shai and Rioli (maybe Graham too) then we've gutted the core around those 2.
By the end of next season they'd be the last standing over 26.
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If we move out Baker Shai and Rioli (maybe Graham too) then we've gutted the core around those 2.
By the end of next season they'd be the last standing over 26.
Yeah, Dow plus one of K-Mac/Pickett gives 6 picks as you say. Then Dan and Shai or possibles.
Young would be harsh off a knee and Sonsie lucky to be contracted or an easy delisting.
Shame Gray got injured as we haven't found out enough about him. We also need to play Blight to see what he has at the top level which will determine if he gets a contract for next year.
As an aside Marlion had to enter a plea in a court in WA today. He didn't have to appear but his not guilty plea was entered.
Has to appear in a District Court in October evidently
Realistically, MRJ should be a strong candidate for delisting (or trading if he has any sort of currency at all). And I reckon he should go before Dow.
Has he been re-signed beyond 2024? If his name wasn't Rioli, he would have been off the list years ago.
I’m not sure whether all Australian courts are the same.
Being a law abiding upstanding citizen wh has never been caught for much.
Is the District Court a court a higher court than the Local Court? With higher penalties, if found guilty applied there?
Is it the amount allegedly stolen that changes which court has juridiction?
I heard it on the ABC radio news and the report said “due to the seriousness of the charges it will be heard in a district court”
Strange isn’t it? Why wouldn’t all the state courts be the same? Go figure.
District court is in between the Supreme Court and the Local Court (called the Magistrates Court in some States). The amount would be taken into account but I suspect its the "aggravated" nature of the burglary that pushes it to the higher court. This means there was a weapon involved or some other aggravating factor (e.g. they knew someone was in the premises at the time etc)
Only Victoria calls the middle court a County Court. All other states call it the District Court. Tassie doesn't even have a middle court.
We have the below OOC for next year
| Contracted Year end | # | First | Surname |
| 2024 | 7 | Liam | Baker |
| 2024 | 38 | Noah | Cumberland |
| 2024 | 27 | Thomson | Dow |
| 2024 | 34 | Jack | Graham |
| 2024 | 48 | Steely | Green |
| 2024 | 2 | Dylan | Grimes |
| 2024 | 4 | Dustin | Martin |
| 2024 | 33 | Kamdyn | McIntosh |
| 2024 | 24 | Sam | Naismith |
| 2024 | 50 | Marlion | Pickett |
| 2024 | 3 | Dion | Prestia |
| 2024 | 10 | Maurice | Rioli Jnr |
| 2024 | 49 | Kaleb | Smith |
| 2024 Rookie | 44 | Seth | Campbell |
| 2024 CAT B Rookie | 39 | Mate' | Colina |
| 2024 Rookie | 26 | Matthew | Coulthard |
| 2024 Rookie | 36 | James | Trezise |
| 2024 Rookie | 42 | Mykelti | Lefau |
| 2024 Rookie | 51 | Jacob | Blight |
| 2024 Rookie | 52 | Campbell | Gray |
Gone: (delist/retired)
Cumberland
Grimes
Naismith
Colina
Coulthard
Pickett (could tolerate a 1 year deal if Bolton and Daniel leave)
Martin (retired or traded, can't see him back next year)
Traded:
Baker
Graham
(plus potentially Bolton and Drioli)
Recontract:
Dow
Green
McIntosh
Prestia
MRJ
Smith
Campbell
Trezise
Lefau
Blight
Gray
That's potentially up to 11 coming off the list which is massive.
I agree we won't take five mids in the draft, in part perhaps because of what you've said but also because our KPF situation is dire. We desperately need a couple of talls that aren't long shot project rookies. Now from what I understand, this is a draft heavy with top ten mids and late first round, early second round quality talls. This should dovetail perfectly with our draft hand as no doubt some of our picks (assuming everything went to plan) would fall in that later range. So there should be no 'reach' so to speak.
Also using North as a cautionary tale may become dated sooner than you think (especially if they beat us as many expect them to do this weekend). There is serious improvement in that team, and with another top 3 pick on the way they should make serious strides next year. Also I would note until recently it was the cautionary tale of North 'and' Hawthorn, but the later has been seemingly quietly dropped as an example by those warning what can happen when too much experience is traded out. Now they are out of the top 8 only by percentage.
For all that I don't have an issue with spreading the picks out over two drafts as you have suggested, if both drafts have the same level and depth of talent. However, if this years is unambiguously better then it's a no brainer, we go all guns blazing.
Pretty good summary and I think on the money.
Ordinarily we are not likely to get good value for these trades but the teams we are trading with have an excess of early draft pics, so we are good things to get a much better deal than usual
If the three players are traded (I'll leave Graham aside for now).
D Rioli - GC (they have picks 6, 11, 20, 26, 37, 47, 73) ,Bolton & Baker - Freo | WC (Freo 7, 12, 16, 25, 61) (WC 3, 23, 59)
We have 9 picks - 1, 21, 36, 39, 41, 54, 57, 63, 68
If we get 4-6 picks for these three trades, we will have way too many - perhaps we might get some future picks.
Best for us ..
1. Would we take 6 and 20 and a future 1st for Rioli and say 54, 57, 63 and 68) (I like a future first as likely to be a top 10 pic)
2. Bolton to WCE for 3 and future first) give back 41
3. Baker to Freo for 7 and 25 (maybe return 39)
Leaves us with 1,3,6,7,20,21,36,39* and two future firsts - 7 to 8 pics (4 in top 7)
Perhaps I am too biased to us here but we do hold the whip hand in all of these negotiations
Good work with all those trades.
But I think you’re being too optimistic with what we’d get for our players. But I could be wrong as well.
I don’t believe we’d get 2 x 1st rounders and a low 2nd for Rioli. It’s just too much. Maybe. Future 1st and 20 (which will move down a couple of spots)
For Bolton and pick 41, pick 3 and a future 1st . Sorry. WC could just split pick 3 for a pair of mid 1sts.
For Baker and maybe 39, pick 7 and 25. Pick 7 alone would be fairly high.
Good effort, but I highly doubt it, I’d love you to be right, but no.
I wouldn't be taking future firsts from GC, Hawks or Freo. They'll all be back end of first round I think.
I'd take a bet on Geelong, Adelaide, WC, Kangas will ascend, but could still be bottom half depending on their trades etc. Essendon tough to gauge. St Kilda, happily take their picks.
I'd take a bet on Geelong, Adelaide, WC, Kangas will ascend, but could still be bottom half depending on their trades etc. Essendon tough to gauge. St Kilda, happily take their picks.
