2024 Draft Thread

[tigertime2]

I have been a huge fan of FOS after seeing live. Still think his leadership on field will see us selecting him at 1.
#1 FOS
What if Langford is the slider to #6? we would lock in Langford @ 6
#6 Langford
What if Smillie is available @7 do we bid 11 & 23 for Saints 7 & 32?
#7 Smillie
at 10 Bo Allen would round out 4 great midfield selections.
#10 Allen

 

[eZyT]

GCS Academy have 5 in the 2025 AA Academy (4 GCS, 1 NT).

so likely to get 9 discounted first rounders in 3 years.

they'll need a *smile* tonne of points again next year

 

[tigertime2]

I thought this would be more like Jack - Better call Saul!

 

[bullus_hit]

Kid gets anywhere near Mundy's level he'll have done bloody well. All the kids are an educated guess at this stage of their careers, so guessing maybe not at pick 1 but at pick 6 or 10 I don't think I'd be to sad about trying for a Mundy type player.

And that's why the 190cm class is so difficult to pierce, these are the elite footballers of the AFL, there is no middle ground, there are no jack of all trades but master of none types who stick around and play 200 games. You either demonstrate elite ball winning ability like Green or Cripps, elite kicking like Mundy or Yeo, elite agility like Pendlebury or you wind up having a short career like scores of other 190cm types.

And I'm asking a pretty basic question which few can seemingly answer. What is Smillie's AFL area of expertise? How is he going to compete against the best in the competition or how is he going to lift his productivity to match a player like Green? If one can't answer that question then it's probably a risky pick and one which has a fair degree of bust potential.

 

[mrposhman]

GCS Academy have 5 in the 2025 AA Academy (4 GCS, 1 NT).

so likely to get 9 discounted first rounders in 3 years.

they'll need a *smile* tonne of points again next year

This is kind of following on from my post earlier on this, where I'd be happy to make some trades to get picks later in next years draft (2nds and 3rds) and this might also be where we get the value for trading a pick into the teens next year too.

Zeke Uwland currently projects as a top 10 pick, the others I know less about, but it could start forcing GCS to have to choose what players they take. Like this year its likely their 1sts will be on the table, same with Brisbane with their 14, as they will likely have another top 5-6 mid available to them.

That could be picks 6, 10, 14 and 17 in play just from those 2 clubs.

 

[mrposhman]

And that's why the 190cm class is so difficult to pierce, these are the elite footballers of the AFL, there is no middle ground, there are no jack of all trades but master of none types who stick around and play 200 games. You either demonstrate elite ball winning ability like Green or Cripps, elite kicking like Mundy or Yeo, elite agility like Pendlebury or you wind up having a short career like scores of other 190cm types.

And I'm asking a pretty basic question which few can seemingly answer. What is Smillie's AFL area of expertise? How is he going to compete against the best in the competition or how is he going to lift his productivity to match a player like Green? If one can't answer that question then it's probably a risky pick and one which has a fair degree of bust potential.

From what I've seen he's not elite at ball winning, he's more the next rung in the chain where he can then use his kicking. Thing the Bont receiving from Libba.

The Bont is possibly the best player in the comp so sets a high standard and kind of backs up what you say. You are either 1 of the best players in the comp or you struggle.

Its why I've been so iffy on him, sure his ceiling is very high, but he also has high bust potential, if he can't generate elite endurance like the Bont has.

 

[Smoking Aces]

I would go that way as well, the club, dunno.

Nah cub will go Langford. But I would be staggered if he is still on the board.

Lalor/Langford is a great result to kick start your midfield re-build.

 

[Findthenextdusty]

This is kind of following on from my post earlier on this, where I'd be happy to make some trades to get picks later in next years draft (2nds and 3rds) and this might also be where we get the value for trading a pick into the teens next year too.

Zeke Uwland currently projects as a top 10 pick, the others I know less about, but it could start forcing GCS to have to choose what players they take. Like this year its likely their 1sts will be on the table, same with Brisbane with their 14, as they will likely have another top 5-6 mid available to them.

That could be picks 6, 10, 14 and 17 in play just from those 2 clubs.

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Which is one reason I wasn’t overly happy that we included our 3rd pick and also agreed to swap 14 with 18 with freo

 

[Mr Brightside]

I like the thinking but I would go Smith, Langford, Smillie then a KPF.

Looking at a bit differently yott and no doubt one of the many scenarios Blair would have had on the whiteboard , but like myself if they rate Lalor and FOS or basically whoever as a clear top 2 I’d be trading out 6 to land FOS , however if I knew Langford or Smith would be there at 6 and Smillie was going to be at 10 I wouldn’t trade for 2 . Basically I have Lalor and FOS well ahead of Langford , Smith , then I have Tauru , Smillie, Draper, Berry , Lindsay , Hotton, Trainor , Dobson ( obviously won’t go early )Reid and Allen
, geeez that’s a tough call on who to take early , the more I watch the more I see reasons not to draft , in saying that they all have plenty to like too .

Good luck Blair

 

[Mr Brightside]

I don't mind the anticipation of the draft because that's when we find out who's going to play for us.
However the deep fascination with juniors who won't wear our jumper has always baffled me.

It's like standing over your presents all night trying to guess what's inside only to be disappointed if you don't get what you wanted.
Main difference with that analogy though is regardless you won't know if the gifts are any good for some time yet.

Remember being drafted is only a ticket to the big dance. There's no guarantees any single one of them will be good AFL players.

Dopamine? I find the seemingly endless speculation boring but hey that's just me. Each to their own if that's your thing.

This is why you open your presents before Xmas

 

[Tigatale]

And that's why the 190cm class is so difficult to pierce, these are the elite footballers of the AFL, there is no middle ground, there are no jack of all trades but master of none types who stick around and play 200 games. You either demonstrate elite ball winning ability like Green or Cripps, elite kicking like Mundy or Yeo, elite agility like Pendlebury or you wind up having a short career like scores of other 190cm types.

And I'm asking a pretty basic question which few can seemingly answer. What is Smillie's AFL area of expertise? How is he going to compete against the best in the competition or how is he going to lift his productivity to match a player like Green? If one can't answer that question then it's probably a risky pick and one which has a fair degree of bust potential.

If you apply your questions:logic to all draftees beyond pick 6, I would say there are very few who we would take. Players like Hotton, Allen have pace and marking ability but have other perceived issues & weaknesses. It’s a raffle but we hold more tickets

 

[Leysy Days]

Nastiness? Not sure on that.

I also struggle to take the advice of coaches who sing high praise for their players who are potential draftees.

Yeah absolutely Holding Aces. He was also over the top in his praise for the other Haileybury boy Hotton.

 

[Tigatale]

Nastiness? Not sure on that.

I also struggle to take the advice of coaches who sing high praise for their players who are potential draftees.

Nastiness is very important. Love a player who given the opportunity will hurt an opposition player.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Travaglia seems to have the necessary competiveness you want when building a list to win a Premiership, also seems a good athlete and smart aggressive footballer , however my querie on him is he a good enough disposer of the ball for that classic modern day half back I.e Suns superstar Rioli D ?

I don’t have the ego of some so feel free to tell me I’m wrong , however if this draft is as good as media are talking it up I expect a player like Travaglia to be a pick in the 20s not talked about from 7-12 , so many after the first couple seem to have obvious deficiencies, of course all players do , however so many seem to lack foot skills or competitiveness or consistency or pace or endurance, as long as we get 7 of the best 10 it’ll be ok

 

[bullus_hit]

If you apply your questions:logic to all draftees beyond pick 6, I would say there are very few who we would take. Players like Hotton, Allen have pace and marking ability but have other perceived issues & weaknesses. It’s a raffle but we hold more tickets

If the midfielder well has run dry then turn to other position types, this is why i would take Travaglia over Allen for example. It's an even draft and Smillie at 10 isn't a terrible pick but I would put his chances on par with the talls on offer. But I definitely wouldn't pick Smillie over Tauru, that makes little sense for a club short on tall timber.

 

[Redford]

I got zilch. I have no idea what North does. I'm happy with six. The only deal I would make with them must involve next year's first for North.

Norf split. If it's with us, then 11-18 is our best outcome. 6 and something else with F1 coming back to us (as was reported a couple of weeks ago) the next best outcome.

And if Norf go down another path eg F1 for for a pick then good luck with that because options are limited.

Pack of duds. Rawlings is so bad he actually could be dumb enough to just keep 2.

 

[Leysy Days]

I always get a bit bemused at this Smillie linked to Richmond at pick 6 rhetoric.
We work on player rankings and have for years. Just because we like Smillie doesn’t mean if someone we rank higher slips to 6 we won’t pick him and I would be staggered if anyone knows what our rankings are.

We'll know when Twomey does his phantom Monday night.

Yes it's a tougher draft this year, but history says he gets the vast majority of the top 10 correct.

If he locks Smillie in at 6 then, he's very short odds to be called out 6 draft night.

 

[Leysy Days]

I don't mind the anticipation of the draft because that's when we find out who's going to play for us.
However the deep fascination with juniors who won't wear our jumper has always baffled me.

It's like standing over your presents all night trying to guess what's inside only to be disappointed if you don't get what you wanted.
Main difference with that analogy though is regardless you won't know if the gifts are any good for some time yet.

Remember being drafted is only a ticket to the big dance. There's no guarantees any single one of them will be good AFL players.

Dopamine? I find the seemingly endless speculation boring but hey that's just me. Each to their own if that's your thing.

Plenty watch more than Leysy, but many of us just like watching talented kids come through, predict how they will fare, then take an interest as their careers develop (at any club).

The Richmond picks this year have just added interest for many.

 

[Leysy Days]

GCS Academy have 5 in the 2025 AA Academy (4 GCS, 1 NT).

so likely to get 9 discounted first rounders in 3 years.

they'll need a *smile* tonne of points again next year

Good to have ya back brother!

 

[Leysy Days]

I have been on the Smillie bandwagon for a while and do not quite understand the concerns on his kicking

Think he is a great kick, excellent clearance player with a massive upside

Also do not think his ruckwork in the forward line gets enough credit, think he is Hawkins like the way he ragdolls his opponent and kicks goals, has done it plenty of times

A truly unique prospect, and for me far superior to Langford and Jagga, due to his size, versatility, high ceiling and athletic profile

Yeah you've stuck fat with him all year Niko! Credit for that!