Would you take him at 10 or 11 or pass completely?
I know you rate Jonty Faull.
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2024 Draft Thread
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I know you rate Jonty Faull.
They both play that big chested argy bargy style, Jackson also developed into a reasonably assured player by foot, he was coming back from a mile too, project player in every sense of the word but a 150 gamer and best and fairest winner. Some x-factor highlights near the end of his career. I'd say Jacko extracted every last ounce of talent at his disposal.
Now I'm looking at Smillie's times & they are in the safe zone for endurance. You have seen more of him but if he can't run out games then his chances of success would be minimal.
I haven’t followed the draft much at all since we were good , however following it on here and via social media in the last couple of months I can’t remember the top rated kids all having so many detractors in the sence that we are focusing on their weaknesses and why they won’t make it , Smith is the best example of this and Smillie and Langford not far behind.
Heard on the radio today , talking about old VCRs and videos it made me think of how much the recruiting process had changed in the AFL and especially us as I said to the @thegeneral01 the other day , the way we do it now is nothing like the way it is was , anyway Greg Miller gave me the videos they used to recruit in 2005 , basically all they had was the state games and a couple of hand held grey blurry vids , I’m pretty sure I still have them lol
Heard on the radio today , talking about old VCRs and videos it made me think of how much the recruiting process had changed in the AFL and especially us as I said to the @thegeneral01 the other day , the way we do it now is nothing like the way it is was , anyway Greg Miller gave me the videos they used to recruit in 2005 , basically all they had was the state games and a couple of hand held grey blurry vids , I’m pretty sure I still have them lol
Was said a year ago this was a strong draft for mids and weak draft for talls and tbh that assessment still looks pretty spot on to me - don't think any of the KPP prospects have looked overly impressive with the possible exception of Tauru and even he has his flaws.
I agree with you Leysy. I am no fan of lead up forwards. They need to have something extraordinary to make it. Ie. enormous aerobic capacity ala Cameron.
I much prefer Whitlock or Faull.
Smillie would last in the pecking order if Langford and Smith were still on the board.
Langford about 100/1 chance of getting to our second pick.
As we all know DA it’s super hard to tell how good a young tall can turn out to be , no doubt there’s a big fella in this draft that will end up a lot better then he’s rated now , some will grow , some will grow into there bodies and find coordination, some will simply gain confidence and learn to use their height and as always they’ll be ones who don’t fulfil there potential, for me as I said earlier I’m seeing potential in all the regular mentioned big blokes , just none of them say next Tom Lynch or Jack Reiwoldt to me , in saying that will be happy to have any one of those lads on the list and then hopefully they can live up to their potential.
Tauru is the best tall talent in my eyes , however is he going to be a genuine key position player ?
Look lm not entirely against him,l think his best is really good ,but needs to be more team orientated and work harder in general play.
If there was a guarantee he could do that,l would take him at 6 easily .
Nastiness? Not sure on that.
I also struggle to take the advice of coaches who sing high praise for their players who are potential draftees.
Something that has intrigued me is how little attention the Tauru injury record has been given. He missed 14 games last year, another 7 this year and then stress fractures were found after the combine. I think he is an amazing talent but if there is people concerned about Lalor, FOS, Hotton, Trainor etc, I am amazed he hasn’t been under the microscope more.
Bully that's like all draftees no guarantees, but his got big upside and the most important traits for me kicking, footy iq and clearance machine. Endurance and marking can be worked on
Whilst Smillie has his flaws he will be a far better footballer than Dan Jackson.
If we get him at 10, I think we have got ourselves a bargain.
Do you know if the stress fractures were growth related TT ? Happens a bit at that age
From Lloyd.
He’s very unselfish, hits the ball hard and times his leads really well. Some [developing] key forwards can be quite placid, but he is aggressive as well and brings everyone down with him.
“He’s worked extremely hard on his goalkicking, too. He used to be probably a 50-50 proposition, or even worse, but now he’s closer to seven or eight out of 10.”
Lloyd has watched Armstrong gobble up almost every ball that went his way in Haileybury colours since year 10, even jokingly feeling for his team’s “poor crumbers, who had nothing to crumb”.
“I’ve always said he’s the best mark I’ve seen come through in my time, which is a big call … but since joining us as a year 10, he’s shown some amazing signs,” Lloyd said.
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On matthew lloyd talking about kids he has coached, I'd take everything he says with a tossed blade of grass
Why are people so negative towards Daniel Jackson? He went from rower to AFL 150 gamer, he also played a fine year of football and his name is etched on the honour board. If Smillie produces anything close to his best and fairest year then he will be doing very well. Granted, Jacko was a slow burn and that's fair enough but his best was pretty good.
The critical thing with Smillie is identifying his standout feature, it definitely won't be his groundball game, hence the comparison to Jackson, it won't be his gut running in all likelihood and it won't be his overhead marking. That means his contested game will need to be elite, this is a big call and is the reason he's such a boom/bust prospect. The numbers he's producing aren't flying off the charts either, workmanlike but far from elite.
I think at pick 10 you could roll the dice but at pick 6 you stand to lose a core player. Tauru at least provides a solid contingency, Smillie has no other avenue to an AFL career other than contested specialist, he'll need to be producing Green type numbers and that is also a long way off.
