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2024 Draft Thread

Armstrong is nothing like Naughton. Bizarre comparison whoever came up with it. Complete opposite actually in every way.

Even down to the things Armstrong does well i.e. kick. Naughton can't.
Armstrong is the best set shot out of all the forwards but beyond that he looks B grade in just about everything else he does. Will he be able to carve out an AFL career with that alone? Maybe, Amiss does ok for a player not typically in that power forward class. Armstrong can contribute further up the ground but labelling him the next Jeremy Cameron might be a stretch. I can't say I have been bedazzled by any of of his goals either, he looks slightly vanilla and lacks any x-factor which most of the top forwards possess.
 
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How far can Smillie slide?
If he gets to 6 can we pass on him?
Saints already have tall hybrid mids, does he fit their current midfield? Think its likely they choose Reid or Lindsay and a tall. Highly unlikely they pick Smillie.
Dees? Sounds like Langford at 5. And Lindsay at 9. Awesome picks. Maybe a tall. Doubt they'd double up with Langford and Smillie.

Can we say that if he is there at 6 then 80% he is there at 10?
Good. Lets pick Smith, Lindsay, Armstrong or Draper at 6 (in that order).
 
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ESPN did the comparisons.
Presume they watch the young players before commentating.
Was looking at the AA team and it looks like we could get as much as a quarter of the side as recruits.
That would be an amazing result for a rebuild and does not include two players considered for the top pick in O'Sullivan and Lalor.

Uwland Trainor Oliver
Travaglia Dennis Jacques
Lindsay Lombard Allan
Gross Shanahan Reid
Kako Armstrong Berry
Dodson Langford Smith
Ashcroft B Camporeale Draper Marshall L Smith

Could get all of: Langford, Smith, Armstrong, Travaglia, Reid, Shanahan, Trainor, Dodson
 
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How far can Smillie slide?
If he gets to 6 can we pass on him?
Saints already have tall hybrid mids, does he fit their current midfield? Think its likely they choose Reid or Lindsay and a tall. Highly unlikely they pick Smillie.
Dees? Sounds like Langford at 5. And Lindsay at 9. Awesome picks. Maybe a tall. Doubt they'd double up with Langford and Smillie.

Can we say that if he is there at 6 then 80% he is there at 10?
Good. Lets pick Smith, Lindsay, Armstrong or Draper at 6 (in that order).
That's his range, being totally objective I reckon he plays a similar game to Daniel Jackson, he's a bit taller so if he could develop a contested marking game he might prove handy as a resting forward. But if he's 196cm and counting then we're entering uncharted waters for a midfielder.
 
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How far can Smillie slide?
If he gets to 6 can we pass on him?
Saints already have tall hybrid mids, does he fit their current midfield? Think its likely they choose Reid or Lindsay and a tall. Highly unlikely they pick Smillie.
Dees? Sounds like Langford at 5. And Lindsay at 9. Awesome picks. Maybe a tall. Doubt they'd double up with Langford and Smillie.

Can we say that if he is there at 6 then 80% he is there at 10?
Good. Lets pick Smith, Lindsay, Armstrong or Draper at 6 (in that order).

I would pick Smillie with 10, I don't like him at 1 or 6 though. Reckon there is too much risk. Its pretty much tank or bust with him.
 
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How far can Smillie slide?
If he gets to 6 can we pass on him?
Saints already have tall hybrid mids, does he fit their current midfield? Think its likely they choose Reid or Lindsay and a tall. Highly unlikely they pick Smillie.
Dees? Sounds like Langford at 5. And Lindsay at 9. Awesome picks. Maybe a tall. Doubt they'd double up with Langford and Smillie.

Can we say that if he is there at 6 then 80% he is there at 10?
Good. Let’s pick Smith, Lindsay, Armstrong or Draper at 6 (in that order).
If Smillie is available to the saints at 7/8 they may take him but I reckon they want a tall and small and they have been heavily linked to Lindsay
Same with Melbourne at 9. If they take a mid at 5 and Armstrong is still around at 9 I think they will take him. They are also linked to Reid at that pick.
My view is if Smillie is not picked by us at 6 there is probably a 50% chance he is still there at 10. Even so I believe that if we get a choice of him or Jagga Smith at 6 we are taking Jagga.
We are linked to Smillie but it doesn’t mean we are linked to him at 6 no matter what.
 
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I'll be shocked if St.Kilda take Smillie - if he's actually there.

They're on record as saying they need more run and carry. Pairing Smillie with Philipou, the Flying Burrito, Windhager, Steele etc doesn't make any sense at all.

Then again, its St. Kilda I guess.
 
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If Armstrong is going to be compared to anyone it would be Jeremy Cameron.

Only cos they are left footers. Not much else.

A million to one he's gunna be able to have the aerobic capacity nor have the ground ball game Jezza has. Unicorn.


How far can Smillie slide?
If he gets to 6 can we pass on him?
Saints already have tall hybrid mids, does he fit their current midfield? Think its likely they choose Reid or Lindsay and a tall. Highly unlikely they pick Smillie.
Dees? Sounds like Langford at 5. And Lindsay at 9. Awesome picks. Maybe a tall. Doubt they'd double up with Langford and Smillie.

Can we say that if he is there at 6 then 80% he is there at 10?
Good. Lets pick Smith, Lindsay, Armstrong or Draper at 6 (in that order).

Picked that apart well Dell Boy. Saints next to no chance. Melbourne some chance if they take say a Jagga/Draper at 5 but not with Langford like you say. Have to be a real chance he gets through. At 10 he's well worth taking.

Only part disagree a bit on is who we take at 6. Reckon it is pretty simple - whoever is left of the Big 5 mids or Viking.
 
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I'll be shocked if St.Kilda take Smillie - if he's actually there.

They're on record as saying they need more run and carry. Pairing Smillie with Philipou, the Flying Burrito, Windhager, Steele etc doesn't make any sense at all.

Then again, its St. Kilda I guess.
It’s SOS as well …
 
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By the way...some here say Reid is slow.
Reid is not slow. He makes time and makes others around him redundant by slick ball use, lovely balance and reading the play. He gets to valuable positions ahead of others without the need to sprint...remind you of a few?...1 Dusty/ Sheds/ Prestia...2 Sidebottom/ Pendlebury
He is high quality..would love to select him.
Agree 💯 for me either 10 or 11
 
Smillie could get to 10. But he could go to Melbourne at 5 or 9 if Langford goes before 5. If Langford and Draper go at 3/4 I think it's likely Melbourne will go for a Jagga/Smillie double. Or Lindsay/Allan. (Smillie or Allan will be one because they'll want some size.)

If we get to a point of knowing that Smillie will be there at 10 (or we're okay to get Allan instead) I think it opens us up to trading 6 for 2. And because we've held out this long it'd be (or appear) a major concession from our end, and therefore likely to include one of our 20s picks, not 11 or 18. And we might even get Norf's F2 in the deal.
 
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Smillie could get to 10. But he could go to Melbourne at 5 or 9 if Langford goes before 5. If Langford and Draper go at 3/4 I think it's likely Melbourne will go for a Jagga/Smillie double. Or Lindsay/Allan. (Smillie or Allan will be one because they'll want some size.)

If we get to a point of knowing that Smillie will be there at 10 (or we're okay to get Allan instead) I think it opens us up to trading 6 for 2. And because we've held out this long it'd be (or appear) a major concession from our end, and therefore likely to include one of our 20s picks, not 11 or 18. And we might even get Norf's F2 in the deal.

Langford won't go to North (or us ahead of FoS) at 2, nor Carlton at 3. Only chance going before 5 is Crows at 4. That's only chance, but a real one.

If he does get to 5 and Dees take Langford, like Dell said doubt they take Smillie at 9.

If we are keen on Smillie as Twomey suggests, the tell for us if he gets to 10 will be if we believe Crows take him.

That's Leysy's guess anyway.
 
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Langford won't go to North (or us ahead of FoS) at 2, nor Carlton at 3. Only chance going before 5 is Crows at 4. That's only chance, but a real one.

If he does get to 5 and Dees take Langford, like Dell said doubt they take Smillie at 9.

If we are keen on Smillie as Twomey suggests, the tell for us if he gets to 10 will be if we believe Crows take him.

That's Leysy's guess anyway.
No, Melbourne won't take both Langford and Smillie. But Crows are said to be keen on Langford. So Melbourne could well go Jagga and Smillie, or Lindsay and Smillie. I don't think the Crows (or anyone in the top 5) are taking Smillie, from what Twomey's saying. Crows are taking Draper/Langford/Jagga probably in that order, I reckon.
 
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