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2024 Draft Thread

By the way...some here say Reid is slow.
Reid is not slow. He makes time and makes others around him redundant by slick ball use, lovely balance and reading the play. He gets to valuable positions ahead of others without the need to sprint...remind you of a few?...1 Dusty/ Sheds/ Prestia...2 Sidebottom/ Pendlebury
He is high quality..would love to select him.
 
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I get the idea, it just has no credibility.

North are looking to trade to a) get an additional pick and b) because the Viking is a reach at 2 and they think he'll be there later.

Why would they believe Richmond, with its huge draft haul and decimated list, that we'd take a tall with lots of upside, at the risk of losing the best midfielders. Rawlings has some folks being hypercritical here, but he's not an amateur on a Web forum. We could get the Viking, but we'd likely not get the additional picks, and get 1 midfielder.

Tauru and Smillie as our top 2 picks. Would folks be happy if we did that? I doubt it.
Tauru is the best KPP on offer in this draft and the best swing-man.
Is he the best prospect overall? No one knows just as no one knows how the careers of the first 5-6 mids will pan out.
Unlike Tauru there is a significant problem
with Smillie, which many would think will put him further down the list
Smillie shouldn’t be considered for 6.
 
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Tauru is the best KPP on offer in this draft and the best swing-man.
Is he the best prospect overall? No one knows just as no one knows how the careers of the first 5-6 mids will pan out.
Unlike Tauru there is a significant problem
with Smillie, which many would think will put him further down the list
Smillie shouldn’t be considered for 6.
It will be interesting if Tauru gets to 6 what we do.
 
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I can't find any phantom drafts where they have which AFL player the kid is like.
Lalor (Martin/Degoey)
Who's O'Sullivan like?
Langford?
Smillie,?
I have no idea but from ESPN top 30 - Best traits similar to:

Here are some:

Ashcroft = Serong
Smith = Butters
Draper = Warner
FOS = Heeney
Lalor = Petracca
Smillie = T Green
Langford = J Dawson
Armstrong = Naughton
Lindsay = J Kelly
Reid = G Meirs

So can the junior watchers please confirm if Reid's best traits are ducking, sooking and playing for free kicks?
 
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Fair point well made Dell Boy.

Only thing would add, Essendon have Melbourne's 1st rounder as well, which could shape to be very tasty. Adelaide too could look to get in again. Likewise GWS.

You also mentioned 7 teams would finish high.

Can pretty much guarantee that at least a couple of those will miss the 8.

And that didnt include GWS, Collingwood or Port. Gold Coast too are a chance of bouncing among others. They all cant finish well up the ladder.

Every year just about without fail a team drops from the top 4 to outside the 8. It just happens. You only need to look at pre-season ladder predictions compared to how they end up to know how teams fortunes turn quickly.

Would swap say pick 23 or 25 for most of those 7 you mentioned. We just need to get on the right train.
Which of the 7 drop? Its a big unknown and we would carry the risk. Shuffling out of this years draft (a deep one) into next year is another risk. Shift 23 out for say 16 might get us an equivalent player.
I'm not against a trade but i'm pointing out that most clubs don't have the 2025 capital that suit us.


And thats true for Port and Pies. Neither holds a F1, traded to GC. Who have academy kids and arent trading back into 24. And i think GWS are in the same boat.
Its why I left them off.

Gotta know your form.
In this case its Essendon and Saints who suit us best
 
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By the way...some here say Reid is slow.
Reid is not slow. He makes time and makes others around him redundant by slick ball use, lovely balance and reading the play. He gets to valuable positions ahead of others without the need to sprint...remind you of a few?...1 Dusty/ Sheds/ Prestia...2 Sidebottom/ Pendlebury
He is high quality..would love to select him.
To me Reid is a reflection of the draft in general: lots of talent but one or two deficiencies leaving you to think will: a) his talents overwhelm those deficiencies or can those deficiencies be greatly improved upon or; b) will the deficiencies be too much to overcome. No draft has ever had such polarising opinions from picks 1-40. Depending on who you ask, you've got different booms or busts right across it. There 'aint no Harley Reid's that's for sure.

Back to Reid, he is actually slow Pete. He got mowed down several times in the Coates League finals games which raised a few questions. My understanding is he didn't test great in the 20m at the Combine either which confirmed a few suspicions.

The question will be can his ball finding nous, ball use, decision making etc more than make up for it a la Steele Sidebottom ? Can he develop a bit more of a sidestep ? Do you just accept he might get caught a few times and put up with it for the benefit of everything else that he brings ?

Who knows. The way the picks and rankings are shaping, I dunno if I see Reid falling to Richmond anyway.
 
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Dotson link to Richmond is super strong. Was in yesterdays age and was floated by Twomey earlier in the week.

I'm a fan. Has mobility, a ground game and a good leap. Someone line up his numbers next to CCJ and tell me they aren't the same, that's my only nerves around him.
 
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Reid = G Meirs

So can the junior watchers please confirm if Reid's best traits are ducking, sooking and playing for free kicks?
He is all of those things but I hate to admit that he has also turned into a very good player.
I think he is number 1 in the AFL at hitting targets in the forward 50.
Pity, because he is pretty unlikeable.
 
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Dotson link to Richmond is super strong. Was in yesterdays age and was floated by Twomey earlier in the week.

I'm a fan. Has mobility, a ground game and a good leap. Someone line up his numbers next to CCJ and tell me they aren't the same, that's my only nerves around him.
He has a lot of talent. That's not in question.

My nerves are his absolute commitment to football. He says he is committed to it now but.......
 
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Maybe so...but add Ashcroft Marshall. Lombard Kako....and Reid.. ...and I think Armstrong and Shanahan. and Berry...thats 8 more AFL quality players...makes 14 in total.
Not included Smillie ..
If you do add Trainor..Lalor and ..Hotten..plus Smillie...that is 18 AFL quality players for certain.

Reckon expectations need to be lowered a bit P&T.

It's pretty much guaranteed at least 6 of those 18 will end up classed as failed picks.

Any less than that and it will be the freakiest draft ever. It's just the way drafting 18 year olds works.

Hopefully we select the right one's.
 
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Reckon expectations need to be lowered a bit P&T.

It's pretty much guaranteed at least 6 of those 18 will end up classed as failed picks.

Any less than that and it will be the freakiest draft ever. It's just the way drafting 18 year olds works.

Hopefully we select the right one's.
Depending on your interpretation of failed, history suggests that 6 from the first 18 is a bit light on. Bit higher than that I reckon.
 
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To me Reid is a reflection of the draft in general: lots of talent but one or two deficiencies leaving you to think will: a) his talents overwhelm those deficiencies or can those deficiencies be greatly improved upon or; b) will the deficiencies be too much to overcome. No draft has ever had such polarising opinions from picks 1-40. Depending on who you ask, you've got different booms or busts right across it. There 'aint no Harley Reid's that's for sure.

Back to Reid, he is actually slow Pete. He got mowed down several times in the Coates League finals games which raised a few questions. My understanding is he didn't test great in the 20m at the Combine either which confirmed a few suspicions.

The question will be can his ball finding nous, ball use, decision making etc more than make up for it a la Steele Sidebottom ? Can he develop a bit more of a sidestep ? Do you just accept he might get caught a few times and put up with it for the benefit of everything else that he brings ?

Who knows. The way the picks and rankings are shaping, I dunno if I see Reid falling to Richmond anyway.

As you know, it's also pace when we don't have the ball as well - applying pressure, getting back helping out defence etc.
 
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Bendigo Pioneers hopeful a few players can be drafted after only one last year​

The Bendigo Pioneers have one standout this year who could be a top-10 pick and there are several others in the frame to find AFL homes. Here is the state of play.
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Tobie Travaglia is the Bendigo Pioneers best chance to be selected. Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Tobie Travaglia is the Bendigo Pioneers best chance to be selected. Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

While it might not land the number one draft pick this season the Bendigo Pioneers could be on track for their best AFL draft haul in years.
There could be up to five selected, the most since 2017 when the Pioneers had seven.
And it centres around Sandhurst’s Tobie Travaglia who could be a top-10 pick.
Travaglia’s name has risen up the ranks in the past few months and is one of a few defenders/midfielders rated highly by recruiters.
Pioneers coach Danny O’Bree said there was every chance he could be a top-10 pick.
The coach added his flexibility for the future was a major factor.
It also helps he won last year’s Bendigo Pioneers best-and-fairest, beating Harley Reid, who was the number one pick in the 2023 AFL Draft.
“He’s going to be a trustworthy player and quite versatile, which is really exciting,” O’Bree revealed.
“At 189cm he’s played predominantly across half-back.

“He’s an intercept mark and an elite runner.
“He’s in the elite category of high speed stuff but got incredible endurance.”
And there’s untapped potential of him being an inside midfielder in the future.
“Later on this year he played a lot of midfield and hit the scoreboard.
“It’s exciting that a club can sort of think in two to three years if he develops a bit more physically he can run through the midfield.
“It’s a pretty exciting prospect from a clubs point of view.”
Travaglia might not be the only Pioneer selected in the first round.
Jobe Shanahan, a 195cm key forward, could also be picked up early.
Jobe Shanahan is one of the leading forwards in the draft. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Jobe Shanahan is one of the leading forwards in the draft. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
O’Bree said the Moama talent excelled in a tough year for the team.
“He’s had an incredible year,” he said.
“We haven’t been a significantly strong team from a win-loss point of view so he’s had to create a lot of opportunities himself.
“He’s got a lot of ball up the ground.
“He’s not only done it at national level but VFL level.
“He’s the best lead up mark in the draft, in my biased opinion.
“His skill set is ridiculously good and he’s worked hard on his contested game.”
O’Bree said three others were in consideration for being selected from the Pioneers.
This includes Archer Day-Wicks, James Barrat and Connor Evans.
Evans would be the story of the draft, if selected.
Earlier this year the Kangaroo Flat player had a car crash, when a truck ran into him, which impacted his season.
Connor Evans has had a tough season but could be drafted. Photo by Rob Lawson/AFL Photos

Connor Evans has had a tough season but could be drafted. Photo by Rob Lawson/AFL Photos
But O’Bree said the midfielder had the talent to succeed, he just needed a chance.
“Unfortunately he missed the nationals due to a car accident he had.
“He showed enough promise that if a club took the punt on him, he showed enough of his football (to do well).
“He can potentially surprise.”
O’Bree said Archer Day-Wicks is the most likely to be picked out of the three.
Archer Day-Wicks is one of a couple of Bendigo players who could be drafted. Photo by Rob Lawson/AFL Photos

Archer Day-Wicks is one of a couple of Bendigo players who could be drafted. Photo by Rob Lawson/AFL Photos
The small forward, from Sandhurst, is set to attract attention with his highlights reel.
“In his last couple of years he’s had some incredible moments in some big names,” O’Bree said.
“He had a bit of an interrupted start to the year but found his feet at the end.
“An incredible athlete, incredible versatility.
“It’s exciting for a club to get someone of his calibre and can play in multiple roles.
But Barrat might also have suitors with his upside.
A lack of pre-season forced the Pioneers to play the tall in the forward line.
Over the season the 18-year-old impressed and improved.
“He played as a key forward as he had no pre-season due to a long term injury,” O’Bree said.
“He missed most of last year because of that.
“We had to keep him as a deep forward (but) as his fitness kept building we were able to move him up the ground a bit more.
“He played across half back and he just kept on coming up trumps.
“His running kept improving as the year went on.
“He’s one of the more exciting prospects because we haven’t seen him at his best yet.”
The AFL draft is on Wednesday November 20 and continues the next day.

 
Dotson link to Richmond is super strong. Was in yesterdays age and was floated by Twomey earlier in the week.

I'm a fan. Has mobility, a ground game and a good leap. Someone line up his numbers next to CCJ and tell me they aren't the same, that's my only nerves around him.
CCJ was played out of his native position, he's too spindly for a key forward role, Dodson needs to be played as first ruck, any notion that this is another forward in the making is probably misguided.

On the bright side, basketball converts have a really high success rate combined with a really high ceiling. Grundy, Gawn & Tippett all had the basketball pedigree, this should be reason for great optimism. Dodson still a long way off those guys but in four years we might be pleasantly surprised.
 
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As you know, it's also pace when we don't have the ball as well - applying pressure, getting back helping out defence etc.
Easy...just make sure you're opponent never ever wins a clearance, and never kick a point or out of bounds...
Then we just get 18 hulks with laser sharp kicking.