2024 Draft Thread

[Ripplestick]

Would people be happy with a FOS/Smilie combo? That’s what it will most likely be if we keep 6.

You seem confident in this scenario playing out, do you have any inside word we aren't so hot on Lalor?

 

[Tigers of Old]

The more I think about it the more I'm ready to give north 6,20 and keep 10,11,that should get us minimum of 4 salivating young players plus our late picks.
So fos, lalor to us.

I think I'd do it.

That said there's a risk with every decision.

Smillie, Tauru, Smith, Draper or another could end up being the pick of the bunch for all we know.

Nothing is guaranteed. Just gotta play the odds.

 

[123cups]

It's refreshing to have so many first round picks to play with this year. The AFL norm for list rebuilds is to retire players over 30, but we're possibly well ahead of the curve by trading out 26/27/28 year olds instead.

Look at it this way. As the draft draws near, would anyone want us to trade Pick 6 in exchange for a 28yo half back flanker? It'd be crazy, right?

 

[TOT70]

Is Lalor the best player available or has someone simply linked him to Richmond, who have the first pick? Have the footy gods of the internet just rolled with an idea in the absence of actual information? If an idea is repeated often enough it becomes almost like a fact.

A couple of months ago, he was being talked about as a top 10 certainly, but not a number 1. Then Richmond became the obvious wooden spooner and he jumped up the rankings, possibly without justication. Was he injured late in the year? Was he an All- Australian? Does his body of work speak for itself? What was his combine like? Does he really look like Dusty?

Not saying we shouldn’t draft him, just thinking out loud and not quite sure if the fuss is just hyperbole. The Tigers could be looking in a totally different direction, or maybe they think a later pick will do the trick and that is the link?

Wrong ideas spread though the internet the faster than wildfire.

 

[Smoking Aces]

You seem confident in this scenario playing out, do you have any inside word we aren't so hot on Lalor?

No inside word. You can swap FOS for Lalor. Was just making the point that Smilie is the one who will be left on the board.

 

[Redford]

Is Lalor the best player available or has someone simply linked him to Richmond, who have the first pick? Have the footy gods of the internet just rolled with an idea in the absence of actual information? If an idea is repeated often enough it becomes almost like a fact.

A couple of months ago, he was being talked about as a top 10 certainly, but not a number 1. Then Richmond became the obvious wooden spooner and he jumped up the rankings, possibly without justication. Was he injured late in the year? Was he an All- Australian? Does his body of work speak for itself? What was his combine like? Does he really look like Dusty?

Not saying we shouldn’t draft him, just thinking out loud and not quite sure if the fuss is just hyperbole. The Tigers could be looking in a totally different direction, or maybe they think a later pick will do the trick and that is the link?

Wrong ideas spread though the internet the faster than wildfire.

Have been thinking exactly the same thing the last couple of months.

 

[momentai]

Tasmania is exactly the reason why we should be hitting the top 10 NOW. We will still get picks in the teens once Tasmania enter the comp. Top 10's may be less likely depending on how the AFL does their list build.

So 1 direct question for you.

If the trades were available to do:

Port - 10 for 13 and 29
North - 2 and F1 for 6, 13 and 29
Saints - 7 for 11 and 18

You wouldn't do that?

You wouldn't do:
2>>>>>6
F1>>>>10
7>>>>>11
All for the cost of Pick 18. Do you really think the player available at Pick 18 (likely to end up 21 or 22 in real numbers) is going to be THAT important to our rebuild?

The player I would take at 18/21 if still available would be Shanahan as set out at post 12733 above.
And yes I think he has the potential to play in a premiership and win a Coleman.
At 6, 10 and 11, I think we can get Tauru, Allan and Lindsay.
I think if it comes to a choice between taking Tauru at 2 and selling a future 1st, North will take Smith or O’Sullivan at 2 or look to trade elsewhere.

 

[thomas the tiger]

Lindsay won't be there.

Personally I think we need to strike whilst the iron is hot, the top tier drafted players are what creates the basis for a premiership. Its those in the top 7 or 8 that drive you, sometimes you get lucky with a slider, but in most cases its the top tier players that create the backbone for the premiership, and they allow you to build from the bottom.

If we have the chance to get 1 and 2 in this draft, we simply must take it. Add in another Pick 1 next year and we are well on our way to securing those top picks over the next 2-3 drafts well before Tassie come in and we get pushed down the draft board.

If we can manipulate trades to get 3 of the 1st 7 and potentially have 2 in the same range next year then we must do it.

I get that everyone says, but what about the flat nature, there is still a group that are ranked higher than the others and thats for good reason.

I have pushed being aggressive for top picks in the least but each scenario is different

Keep in mind reiwoldt (pick 13) and rance (pick 18) were as equal to Cotchin (1). Dusty obviously in a different stratosphere

Do the north deal for 2 and f1. But I would be holding 10,11 and trade out a later pick or 2 for a deal to good to refuse.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Is Lalor the best player available or has someone simply linked him to Richmond, who have the first pick? Have the footy gods of the internet just rolled with an idea in the absence of actual information? If an idea is repeated often enough it becomes almost like a fact.

A couple of months ago, he was being talked about as a top 10 certainly, but not a number 1. Then Richmond became the obvious wooden spooner and he jumped up the rankings, possibly without justication. Was he injured late in the year? Was he an All- Australian? Does his body of work speak for itself? What was his combine like? Does he really look like Dusty?

Not saying we shouldn’t draft him, just thinking out loud and not quite sure if the fuss is just hyperbole. The Tigers could be looking in a totally different direction, or maybe they think a later pick will do the trick and that is the link?

Wrong ideas spread though the internet the faster than wildfire.

Insightful as ever Tottie. What hasn’t made any sense is Lalor’s stocks ROSE after a serious hamstring injury. Usually it would be the complete opposite.

 

[Tigers of Old]

@spook imho is as fine a judge of young talent as any on here and he was the first who said to me he’s the clear number 1 .

Steady on mate. Spooker is still chips in on Menadue & lets not mention Sampilands..

 

[Mr Brightside]

Steady on mate. Spooker is still chips in on Menadue & lets not mention Sampilands..

lol, not much competition in fairness

 

[Tigers of Old]

lol, not much competition in fairness

Seriously I agree spook is a good judge on here. Just not letting the big fella get ahead of himself.

Now watch Samson go on & become a gun ruckman..

 

[Ripplestick]

Is Lalor the best player available or has someone simply linked him to Richmond, who have the first pick? Have the footy gods of the internet just rolled with an idea in the absence of actual information? If an idea is repeated often enough it becomes almost like a fact.

A couple of months ago, he was being talked about as a top 10 certainly, but not a number 1. Then Richmond became the obvious wooden spooner and he jumped up the rankings, possibly without justication. Was he injured late in the year? Was he an All- Australian? Does his body of work speak for itself? What was his combine like? Does he really look like Dusty?

Not saying we shouldn’t draft him, just thinking out loud and not quite sure if the fuss is just hyperbole. The Tigers could be looking in a totally different direction, or maybe they think a later pick will do the trick and that is the link?

Wrong ideas spread though the internet the faster than wildfire.

The Lalor momentum is due to a couple of journalists reporting that after speaking with most club recruiters, many believe the Tigers have Lalor at number 1.

 

[Aegean Tiger]

I honestly think we should only take one of FOS or Lalor, I think the haul needs a sprinkling of conservatism to go with the very obvious upside of these two. I personally prefer FOS, I think he's more likely to emulate a long career like Sheds, I think there's probably going to be an element of slow burn with Lalor as he works into an AFL workload, I also think the role he plays is more likely to aggravate any soft tissue vulnerability he may have. It's not standard practice to pick a player at 1 who hasn't demonstrated an elite endurance base, or at the very least, has a 13 beep under the belt.

I think a FOS / Lalor double would be amazing if it could be orchestrated under our terms Bully. Agree FOS should be the priority however. Reckon he has an even higher ceiling than Shedda. Yes I know. Massive call.

 

[Berwick boy]

Marty did his acl during this recording but KEPT PLAYING

What a band

 

[Redford]

What a band

Bulbs loves that song.

 

[The_General]

So, i go back to our list. We have 2 medium backs, 1 inside mid, 1 wingman, 1 KPF and 1 Ruck over 30. We have the worst midfield in the comp. We have 13 25yo +, of those 2 are coming off ACLs, and probably only 2 would get into other clubs 22.

By my calculations, we are about 15 short of a decent side. That's putting a LOT of dependence on the 21 draft and a couple of others outside of that filling spots long term.

Of those, I'd have Trezise as a back pocket, Bauer *maybe* as a third tall forward, Campbell and Green may be able to form a career.

I cannot understand, in such a "deep draft", why folks want to reduce our first rounders back to 5 picks. Of those 5, some will likely fail. So of our 15 or so holes in the list, we may fill 3 or 4?

Trading up to get Lalor & FoS (or equivalent) is probably at the expense of a Travaglia or Allan or Whitlock.

We have no more silverware to sell. We won't get this many picks next year, this high and the year after we'll see Tassie dilution. We need to keep as many picks as possible.

If we can't get 6 in the first round AND move up, then I'd take our picks to the draft. We've got one opportunity to bounce back. We're likely a very high pick next year and the year after (Tassie won't take the top 6 picks). We'll get our quality, just not all in one serve of the buffet.

 

[tigerlove]

Insightful as ever Tottie. What hasn’t made any sense is Lalor’s stocks ROSE after a serious hamstring injury. Usually it would be the complete opposite.

Maybe has risen but Smoking Aces mentioned in July the following which was before Lalor was injured with the hammy.

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge said on their podcast that Lalor might be the one coming for the Number 1 spot.

Seen alot of talk on other club sites prior to injury wanting Lalor as their first pick. He's definitely high on the radar of many.

 

[Tigerwa]

So, i go back to our list. We have 2 medium backs, 1 inside mid, 1 wingman, 1 KPF and 1 Ruck over 30. We have the worst midfield in the comp. We have 13 25yo +, of those 2 are coming off ACLs, and probably only 2 would get into other clubs 22.

By my calculations, we are about 15 short of a decent side. That's putting a LOT of dependence on the 21 draft and a couple of others outside of that filling spots long term.

Of those, I'd have Trezise as a back pocket, Bauer *maybe* as a third tall forward, Campbell and Green may be able to form a career.

I cannot understand, in such a "deep draft", why folks want to reduce our first rounders back to 5 picks. Of those 5, some will likely fail. So of our 15 or so holes in the list, we may fill 3 or 4?

Trading up to get Lalor & FoS (or equivalent) is probably at the expense of a Travaglia or Allan or Whitlock.

We have no more silverware to sell. We won't get this many picks next year, this high and the year after we'll see Tassie dilution. We need to keep as many picks as possible.

If we can't get 6 in the first round AND move up, then I'd take our picks to the draft. We've got one opportunity to bounce back. We're likely a very high pick next year and the year after (Tassie won't take the top 6 picks). We'll get our quality, just not all in one serve of the buffet.

This is so spot on. I sometimes wonder why people just ignore when its said so often by most pundits in the know that this is probably the most EVEN draft of all time.

The theme so far by the club has been to get as many first rounders as possible im on the side of continuing that theme. If that means splitting pick one to get say 5 and 9 so be it.

There is no Harley Reid in this Draft there is no one or two out and out stand outs. Instead it is likely four or five rated 10 20 could be better than that 1 - 10.

There are no more gold nuggets left to sell either and as you say we have just this year and next year before drafts become compromised once again.

A really deep even draft what better time is there to have 8 or 10 top 30 picks. More not less is the go.

 

[spook]

Seriously I agree spook is a good judge on here. Just not letting the big fella get ahead of himself.

Now watch Samson go on & become a gun ruckman..

Brother, I'm so far ahead of myself I'm gazing upon my own magnificent arse.



Or did I just pull my head out of it?



Nup. Still there.