Mason Cox kicked 17 and had 325 HO is 2023. Only 19 games. Too injury prone but he has been better than most give him credit for.
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2024 Draft Thread
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Agree, draft a ruck as a ruck, a key forward as a key forward, not a bit of both. Too many fall into the category of neither one nor the other.But the point is why do we need a forward who could kick 40goals a year being a ruck,just get geniune ruck who can go forward resting and can scrap a few goals here and there,and keep the forward playing forward
Lalor is a tackling machine and FOS is pretty good too.
That's Bungal.
I'm not commenting on Smith in case a teenage girl eggs my house.
Well we now know that Bengal is not pissed whilst watching junior footy as he’s only drinking Budweiser
I don't think it's fair to compare Dodson,he hasn't played a game of senior AFL yet.
Ryan has kicked 15 goals in 23 games ,lm still confused why we would put a key forward who can kick 40 goals + a year in the ruck,unless we have equal talent to rotate
Not the Australia made version DA,that is only 4.5,but getting the American version is hard over here.
Rare l watch the juniors having a beer ,maybe if there's a arvo match or a rare night match.
Because you need a player to provide the chop out occasionally, it helps for team balance, the days of Shaun Grigg were nice but hardly the template for success. Ryan isn't a forward, I think most people now realise that and if we're comparing him to say Sims, I'd say he's less agile and highly unlikely to make it anywhere other than a full time ruck.
Interesting none picked Lalor, yet he's widely tipped to go at #1 everywhere else
Yep, even star rucks aren't stars. We drafted Vickery with pick 8 only to win flags with Nank and Soldo for peanuts. And Grigg.
Rucks are role players like George, but taller. They're Kramers.
It's interesting that his stocks have risen whilst in rehab, he's only firmed as number 1 because Richmond are likely to take him, not because of any compelling body of work. This tells me this draft is wide open & any player from 1-6 could be the marquee player of the draft.
Agree but why then recruit Coleman-Jones and then play him forward? Ditto Ryan who has the turning circle of a Mack truck. I'm all for this approach which is the exact reason I'd be grabbing a player like Sims who is a forward by trade, the fact he is ruck height simply gives him a layer of flexibility. It's hardly a case of grabbing a jack of all trades but a master of none.
If we recruit Dodson I'm ok, he looks like a handy ruckman but if he's the next name in the CCJ/Ryan train of failed forward experiments then I'd say we're struggling to learn from previous mistakes.
Ummm How can you say his stocks have risen while in rehab ,,the recruiters rated him before that,and there the only ones that matter.
If player X is our main goal kicker at 40 goals+,you ain't going to want to play him in the ruck unless there's a injury .
We did all right to win 3 premierships without the type you are after,which doesn't make sense to me, because we need a key forward who can kick 40 goals a year
Nah, Frank looked after WA. He had some influence with JON.
Even Bradman scored a duck. Wallace wanted an outside mid who could kick long and break the game open. A Dal Santo type, but quicker.
We didn't pick best available, but went for Combine results.
i didn't say I would play him in the ruck full time, I inferred that being ruck height gives him an extra string to his bow and provides him with a few more avenues to making the grade as an AFL footballer. My primary concern is avoiding situations whereby players like Naismith & Ryan are left to do the heavy lifting up forward. We don't have Jack Riewoldt anymore, Lynch is clearly in his twilight years, the solution thus far has been to recruit key forwards very late in the draft and history tells you this is a needle in a haystack approach. But if we are going down this path the best bets are in fact ruck/forwards - Larkey, Mason Cox & Mitchell Lewis to name a few. Sometimes you even get a decent ruck out of the deal, the De Konings are a good case in point. Sometimes you get even luckier and land a Jeremy McGovern who went from pudgy undersized ruck to All Australian defender.
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