Saw his games on TV and he looks impressive.
Skilled. Hard. Has time.
A mix of mid and half forward.
Would be an alternative to Hannaford and possibly Berry...both of which may be gone by 20s picks.
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2024 Draft Thread
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Skilled. Hard. Has time.
A mix of mid and half forward.
Would be an alternative to Hannaford and possibly Berry...both of which may be gone by 20s picks.
That is a good point
Is Jagga = Scully
whilst Lalor would be unlikely to get to Dusty's level will he be the more damaging player?
Francis Jackson has never butchered a top 5 pick, 100% clean sheet so I'm confident that whoever he picks will be a core contributor but I'm also mindful of picking a player at 2 who has a few question marks pertaining to soft tissue injuries & endurance. Most years there's a Dusty clone, Rayner ran an 11 beep and still went number 1, the media were salivating but ignored his gut running potential, his times in the RCD zone. There's only so much you can do with an aerobic base so low. Cripps was seen a chubster with a fanatical attack on the ball, but the reality was he could still run a 13 beep. I think this is the zone for upside, 12 or below and you are up against it. I don't have Lalor's data, with that black hole of knowledge I cannot overlook a player with such a decorated junior career. I'm also wary about the pitfalls of a crash and bash lifestyle, Venables was another Dusty on the block but got cruched out of the competition. I do like Lalor, he's top 5 on talent, I wouldn't be upset with him either but I'm also a bit of a Warren Buffet when it comes to premium picks. Even when I'm looking at all the various scenarios I don't think I will be suffering from buyers remorse, I put this on par with something like Brayshaw over Luke Davies-Uniake & Rayner, I probably miss out on some pizzaz and a rampaging bull but I'm happy I didn't wind up with a forward flanker in the wash-up.
In saying all that I'm happy to package 10 & 11 and take a chance on one of Lalor or O'Sullivan, that would be my focus. I think you could get a good result trading 10,11 for 5 & a second rounder. Lalor & Cooper Hynes looks ok to me if we're traveling down that path.
Jasper Alger
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Warragul
Date of Birth: 17/12/2006
Height: 182cm
Medium forward who is strong overhead, quick on the burst and a fine decision maker, with his goal kicking also an asset. Mixed his football this year between the Oakleigh Chargers and Caulfield Grammar, as well as representing Victoria Country in all four matches of the Marsh AFL National Championships, which included a three-goal haul against South Australia. Played six matches in the Coates Talent League for the Chargers, averaging 11 disposals and kicking eight goals. His four-goal effort against the Calder Cannons in the Wildcard Round was an impressive performance before suffering a broken finger in a basketball training mishap which ruled him out of the remaining finals. Tested extremely well at the national Draft Combine, ranking fourth on the 20m sprint (2.95 seconds) and tenth on the agility test (8.14 seconds).
Jack your namesake Jack Whitlock tested better athletically than Simms in almost every category including jumping.
We know of course that testing is different than game day but think Jack has a very decent leap on him. Can he grab it at the highest point? Not sure.
There’s question marks on Simms and JWhitlocks competitiveness which makes me wonder whether either of them like taking the hits from the front position.
Sounds a likely type.
I see Twomey had him in the “best of the rest” (30-40) . Hasn’t really been mentioned by many.
Still 17 as an aside
JW did totally out test Sims, DA, my post was an informed by my watching Sims put a metre of air on Matt Whitlock in a game video.
Sims has a presence when he takes position imo. Not so Jack IMO.
FWIW I’m not sayin either is not game. But I do take @bengal tigers’s pot that Sims is a bit Wright like. Is that what he is to your eye, DA?
I would have Faull ahead of both of them based on competitiveness alone.
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What hasn't been mentioned in relation to Lalor's hammy and Hotton's knee is that our new high performance manager I.M. Knott-Meehan has expertise in this area. He'll have medical scans and will make an assessment of the risk. If we select either it's been cleared by Knott-Meehan.
In the Francis Jackson / Matthew Clarke era (since 2006) - we have hit on 57% of our first round picks. That percentage goes to 71% if 100 gamers is the criteria (Vickery & Conca)
So worst case if we pick 8 players in a very good draft - we should bank on between 4 and at a stretch 6 very good players.
So worst case if we pick 8 players in a very good draft - we should bank on between 4 and at a stretch 6 very good players.
Quick and good overhead. Nice finisher. I'd be happy to pick him up with a later pick.
Why Richmond might not trade for North Melbourne’s pick two
The Kangaroos are open to cashing in the No.2 pick in the draft if they can get two decent later picks for it, but the Tigers - who have a wealth of picks - have their eyes on Sam Lalor at No.1 and are reluctant to give up their next selection.
Why Richmond might not trade for North Melbourne’s pick two
ByMarc McGowan
October 29, 2024 — 12.37pm
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Richmond’s reluctance to part with pick six could force North Melbourne to use their No.2 selection in next month’s AFL draft or find another taker.
There is a strong group of midfielders, including Sam Lalor, Brisbane Lions father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, Finn O’Sullivan, Jagga Smith, Sid Draper, Harvey Langford and Josh Smillie, set to be chosen early in the draft, which has put the Kangaroos in a challenging spot.
North already have Luke Davies-Uniacke, Jy Simpkin, George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Colby McKercher and even Will Phillips, and just traded for Luke Parker, but need key position players at both ends.
That is why the Roos are open to offloading pick two for multiple later selections, where they would slide only a few picks back in the draft.
The Tigers boast an extraordinary seven first-round selections, as well as the coveted opening pick of the second round on day two, but are set to re-sign Thomson Dow, a source familiar with negotiations told this masthead, meaning they will have only seven list spots available.
Richmond’s almost unprecedented draft hand – picks one, six, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24 – owes largely to them agreeing to trade Daniel Rioli (Gold Coast), Shai Bolton (Fremantle) and Liam Baker (West Coast).
However, the Tigers’ second-round selection could fetch them a future first-rounder, and reduce their number of picks to seven, in line with how many players they’ll need to fill their list, should they retain Dow.
Richmond are tipped to use the No.1 selection on GWV Rebels rising star Lalor, who is being likened to Dustin Martin for his physicality, power, skills and ability to impact the game equally as a midfielder or forward. This masthead ranked Lalor at the top of our draft rankings at the start of this month.
Carlton star Sam Walsh’s second cousin, hard-running midfielder O’Sullivan, and Smith, the draft’s best ball, are also in that mix, but most recruiters who spoke to this masthead are certain Lalor will be the first player taken.
Another factor is the Tigers’ interest in 195-centimetre Patrick Cripps clone Josh Smillie, who hails from junior club Park Orchards, where Richmond list boss Blair Hartley is a coach and Hartley’s son plays.
Smillie looms as Richmond’s selection if they maintain pick six, but there is less certainty he would still be there four selections later.
North Melbourne are linked to Gippsland Power’s athletic interceptor Alix Tauru, who looms as the draft’s biggest bolter, and Sandringham Dragons key forward Harry Armstrong, but both players should be available at a lower selection in the top 10.
Melbourne (picks five and nine), St Kilda (seven and eight) and Richmond (10) could also consider Tauru or Armstrong with one of their top-10 picks, while another tall defender, Luke Trainor, looms as a later first-round choice.
The Demons used most of their draft collateral trading up for Essendon’s No.9 selection and are not expected to try to move up again, leaving the Saints as the likeliest potential trade partner for the Roos’ pick two if nothing eventuates with the Tigers.
North Melbourne lost Tarryn Thomas this year, so could select a midfielder-forward type at No.2 instead of reaching for a taller bookend, unless the plan is for Sheezel to spend more time in attack than in an on-ball role.
Some rival recruiters believe the Kangaroos’ bulk drafting of midfielders in the past five years means they might need to consider their list needs instead of taking the best available player, as clubs typically do when selecting at the pointy end of the draft.
Another option is North using their future first-rounder to trade into the top 10 for a second selection, meaning they could take a midfielder first and still address their key-position need.
That would require a team to trade out of a highly touted, deep and even draft, so the Roos may need to offer a sweetener for that to happen.
One of Richmond or North Melbourne could place a bid on Ashcroft with the first two picks, but the Lions are certain to match either way.
Scully would have played 200+ if not for his ankle injury
Why Richmond might not trade for North Melbourne’s pick two
The Kangaroos are open to cashing in the No.2 pick in the draft if they can get two decent later picks for it, but the Tigers - who have a wealth of picks - have their eyes on Sam Lalor at No.1 and are reluctant to give up their next selection.
I haven't seen the softness some people have mentioned. He’s never shied away from physicality, whether it's going up for a contested mark or battling in the ruck when I've seen him live. However, I have noted a lack of awareness at times, where he seems to miss incoming contact. I suspect this might be due to his later start in football, having played basketball until 15. Despite his size, Sims is surprisingly agile and transitions smoothly from aerial contests to ground ball play. He's a more dynamic athlete than Wright and possesses a stronger ground game then 2 metre.
Berry, Dattoli and even Hannaford in front of him for mine but wouldn’t mind him if we miss…
For players we can get….
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