Besides, we've got so many picks we can afford to burn a couple! Ha ha
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2024 Draft Thread
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I don't get your philosophy Robert.
Pick 6 is still a important pick ,Lalor is the best player imo,,but IF he was such a risk as your alluding to,why take him at all.
I will tell you why we will take Lalor ,because the Tiger's aren't stupid,and would look like the Demons when they overlooked dusty ,every player is a risk and a lot may end up injury prone,Also Lalor played coates in 22-23 without any problems.
I have seen Armstrong live only two times and whilst I didn't see contested marks in forward line most where on the lead but I did see him take strong grabs roaming to wing and then doubling back quickly hence the Jeremy Cameron reference.
Armstrong recorded top 10 in the Agility test just ahead of FOS.
IMO Jeremy Cameron is a great player but not reliant on contested marking.
If he was still on the board at our pick 10&11 I would take but suspect he may well be gone.
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Points and draft position. It’s the combination of both. They want two first rounders. We can point to the fact we would be discounting it by the equivalent of pick 61. This is called negotiation.
If you're relying on him playing like Jeremy Cameron it's a big risk ILO.
He's a unicorn. An athletic and aerobic freak. Only Richo rivals him in players leysy has seen.
Not to mention his smarts and reading of the game, to know when and where to use himself.
Big ask for any player to try and replicate those traits and style.
Saying that, like you say he does know when to lead-up and he is a very good kick. Though Cleve Hughes was good at those two as well.
Points are a fantasy system for matching academy or F/S. That is all it's useful for.
They will make up absolutely zero part of our negotiation with North. The word won't be mentioned.
Agree. Draper's ability to gather in a contest and drive out of it in the clear looks the best of the bunch.
Has anyone seen us linked to Draper at all ? I like him but I have only seen us mentioned in regard to all the top Victorian midfielders. Perhaps we are not looking at one and are confident he won’t get to 6.
C'mon Leysy player comparisons are thrown around all the time plays like Cripps, Dusty, Heeney etc in no way does that mean that they are going to be that player just some sort of reference.If you're relying on him playing like Jeremy Cameron it's a big risk ILO.
He's a unicorn. An athletic and aerobic freak. Only Richo rivals him in players leysy has seen.
Not to mention his smarts and reading of the game, to know when and where to use himself.
Big ask for any player to try and replicate those traits and style.
Saying that, like you say he does know when to lead-up and he is a very good kick. Though Cleve Hughes was good at those two as well.
I think we need a mobile forward not just a doofas in the goal square and quite like Armstrong, you lost me when you mentioned Clever who operated on railway tracks.
The one thing I will say about Draper is that he seems the most physically developed than the other mids being considered at pick one. FOS, Lawler and Jagga all look baby faced and with limited physical conditioning.
Another reason why I see Carlton nabbing him for that instant sugar hit and the reason they were keen on pick 2 or 3 to get ahead of the crows at pick 4.
Another reason why I see Carlton nabbing him for that instant sugar hit and the reason they were keen on pick 2 or 3 to get ahead of the crows at pick 4.
Jagga's got brownlow written all over him... and I don't mean the medal, I mean the man.
The Jermey Cameron thing is a big call, I agree. Mobile forwards tho, not so much a new concept. Could he play like Tex Walker? Could he play like Charlie Curnow? Could he play like peak Jack Darling? There's some hybrid model of all these blokes that Armstrong could fill. I think there is a clearly defined role for him as key forward or number two mobile forward. It's not a stretch. There is a clear role for Armstrong.If you're relying on him playing like Jeremy Cameron it's a big risk ILO.
He's a unicorn. An athletic and aerobic freak. Only Richo rivals him in players leysy has seen.
Not to mention his smarts and reading of the game, to know when and where to use himself.
Big ask for any player to try and replicate those traits and style.
Saying that, like you say he does know when to lead-up and he is a very good kick. Though Cleve Hughes was good at those two as well.
My spanner in the discussion is I want Jagga at #1 and Armstrong at #6 (if he is still available) then we use #10 and #11 to pick the best remaining two mids available (and there will be quality there waiting for us). That gives us 3 mids and the best KPF available in the first 11 picks. We then have 4 more picks where we target small forwards, another KPP or two or another mid perhaps.
My rationale is that this draft runs very deep with quality midfielders.
I am still to be convinced on the flying Viking - I don’t know why and I could be wrong but I reckon he is the biggest stretch out of the first top 10 which is why the speculation exists around trading #2.
My rationale is that this draft runs very deep with quality midfielders.
I am still to be convinced on the flying Viking - I don’t know why and I could be wrong but I reckon he is the biggest stretch out of the first top 10 which is why the speculation exists around trading #2.
Interesting take Leysey. Personally I'd go for Langford's 33 disposals and 4 goals against Lindsay's 11 possession game (injury notwithstanding). Langford already had 3 goals by then.
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Seems to have a real competitive edge to him , bit in the Selwood mode
How does Lalor stack up against Rayner & Ainsworth? These players haven't been superstars, just solid core additions. I see where the love is coming from but I don't necessarily see Dustin Martin credentials, Dusty had the midfield production, a ready to go tank, a clean bill of health and wasn't hampered by soft tissue injuries. The skill set is there but piecing that all together not such a lay-down misere, therefore I leave this for pick 6 which is fair weight for a player with several question marks.
We're heading for a Blair v Rawlings game of chicken over pick 2. Blair would like it but doesn't want to give up too much, Rawlings would like to get rid of it for as much as he can.
Norfs need picks in this draft. They will try to sell their F1 before dealing pick 2 but they couldn't even offload that for pick 13 last week.
Blair has picks coming out of his ears. He can afford to sit back and wait.
First bloke to pick up the phone loses.
Norfs need picks in this draft. They will try to sell their F1 before dealing pick 2 but they couldn't even offload that for pick 13 last week.
Blair has picks coming out of his ears. He can afford to sit back and wait.
First bloke to pick up the phone loses.
Bully a few questions what's your take head to the draft with our picks and maybe trade one of them for a first round in 2025 or trade up for pick 2 ?. I'm not sold on trading for 2 and what's been thrown out there. I said it before blues set the standard with 12 and 14 for 3 ,our 6 shouldn't be in discussion. This draft has so much depth and players will slide.
As for key position players when do we pull the trigger and what a you making of the depth ?
