No..never again please. That has proven to be a failed move leading to years of mediocrity.
-
IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
2024 Draft Thread
- Thread starter Mr T.
- Start date
On Twomey's most recent phantom draft the Bears need approx 3040 points to take Ashcroft and Marshall. After the slides they will have under 1000 points this year. That's a big deficit.
And the AFL's rejig of draft points from next year on played right into our hands.
Our weakness in all this is that we have invested heavily in draft points this year and if we don't shop them to the Bears the market might be flooded. BTW we may already have a heads of agreement in place. That would be sensible. But pick #17-18 is not pretty.
What if we do business with GC for their junk picks, burn Brisbane and bid on Ashcroft? To keep him. Brisbane might trade out a player to get the currency for Ashcroft. They point blank couldn't get Marshall otherwise. Because after their pick #17 slips to #21 they'd need to find 1600+ points to match just Ashcroft. That's 2025-6 first rounders.
If they can't Ashcroft him this year they will probably never have the draft currency to get him in his prime.
We can do business with Brisbane. We'll certainly get their first this and next year. You'd reckon we'd get their #28 this year in points business. We are very strong here. Picks say #28 and 29 in this draft are hot picks. 28 and 29 might get you #16.
Can we get their 2026 first? It costs a lot for a GF club to get pick #1 in a National Draft. Better to get their 2026 first than 28 this year. 28 is just a points thing.
We want their three first rounders and probably 28 this year. To not bid. And for them to cop our chump change.
They can still do enough business to get Ashcroft otherwise we should just take him. The landscape changes with each Brisbane win.
And the AFL's rejig of draft points from next year on played right into our hands.
Our weakness in all this is that we have invested heavily in draft points this year and if we don't shop them to the Bears the market might be flooded. BTW we may already have a heads of agreement in place. That would be sensible. But pick #17-18 is not pretty.
What if we do business with GC for their junk picks, burn Brisbane and bid on Ashcroft? To keep him. Brisbane might trade out a player to get the currency for Ashcroft. They point blank couldn't get Marshall otherwise. Because after their pick #17 slips to #21 they'd need to find 1600+ points to match just Ashcroft. That's 2025-6 first rounders.
If they can't Ashcroft him this year they will probably never have the draft currency to get him in his prime.
We can do business with Brisbane. We'll certainly get their first this and next year. You'd reckon we'd get their #28 this year in points business. We are very strong here. Picks say #28 and 29 in this draft are hot picks. 28 and 29 might get you #16.
Can we get their 2026 first? It costs a lot for a GF club to get pick #1 in a National Draft. Better to get their 2026 first than 28 this year. 28 is just a points thing.
We want their three first rounders and probably 28 this year. To not bid. And for them to cop our chump change.
They can still do enough business to get Ashcroft otherwise we should just take him. The landscape changes with each Brisbane win.
So this, it's the time to go for it.
Don't keep any one who we know has peaked or isn't good enough.
Those delistings are easy and should happen.
They win the flag.
Filled their bellys.
Next years F1 maybe a better option for us.
If we need them for the other deals to get the higher 1st rounders, then it makes sense to use them there. I was merely showing that we could add 2 1sts over the next 2 years, only giving up relatively late picks, that we wouldn't be taking to the draft anyway. It probably won't work out like that, all depends on what we get / have to give back in the other deals.
Then we'll probably use that pick in a combination trade to move further up the order into this draft and or next.
We have so many holes in our list, this is the draft to do it. 3-4 gun mids a couple running flankers and at least 1-2 talls.
Next year is supposed to be shallow.
Ashcroft, Lombard, Kako, and Battle. Not to say Marshall isn't winning recruiters atm, mrp. Could it get to #22? What if it starts at #18? Could it get to #23? It aint pretty for us.
Good news is...
18 = Armstrong/Trainor
But..
24= Faull/ Whitlock
Bring it on!
18 = Armstrong/Trainor
But..
24= Faull/ Whitlock
Bring it on!
I think you answered the question above. Before the weekend it was looking like Marshall might not attract a bid in the top-25.
Far be it for me to pour cold water over a draft wet dream,
But how do you extrapolate
'pascoe has Jagga at 1, so we'll scratch our chin and maybe take him at 6'
Oh ok, so you are meaning where it slips to from us, makes sense. I read it that if Brisbanes pick slides then they need more points to match, but their 1st won't slide "for them" as they will be the 1st reason that it slides, unless Battle gets Round 1 compo
We can't get their 2026 first because trading picks two years in advance hasn't come in yet, Jack. Probably next year.
I don't think we're getting their 2025 first either.
Even if their first this year slides to 23, junk picks we need to get rid of for pick 23 is a decent result for us.
Ashcroft 1
FOS 2. ..before Nth take him.
Armstrong.3..Nth..or alternate KF
Lalor 4...WCE pick 3..trusting Nth are put off by his hammy.
Draper 5 Crows
Lindsay 6. Saints < they love outside distributers...so will leave us Smith>
Smith 7....us!.....all. 3 of our wishes satisfied
This is not an alternate draft value by me...it is a selection order in an attempt to get all 3 mids we desperately need.
I initially ommited Ashcroft...too lazy to include those not available to us!
Would never miss Smith Ezy...I know your tentacles reach far and wide ...I'd have nowhere to hide.
Last edited:
I was worried abut that two year rule. Dayemm.
Ok. Then they haven't got the currency, scoop. No deal. Let em go to work. We don't need pick #23. Let em use it. It'll cost em Marshall and maybe a player.
I was really impressed with the game from Hannaford in the Grand Final. He did absolutely everything, surely he is pushing up towards a top 15 draft position, looks like a great prospect. Noober has created a video of his game, worth a look if you didn’t see it.
